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Swift Has Reached 1.0

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Re: Swift Has Reached 1.0

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Open-sourcing it would be really cool to see. Chris Lattner last said he wasn't sure if they were going to open source it ( http://lists.cs.uiuc.edu/pipermail/llvmdev/2014-June/073698.... )

Yep, we damn need a bit of more competition within bigs, right now seems just between Google and Mozilla (for the type of language).

I think at this point we also have facebook embracing D ?

Re: Swift Has Reached 1.0

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I don't believe this is the traditional definition of "reached 1.0".

What do you mean?

"You’ll notice we’re using the word “GM”, not “final”. That’s because Swift will continue to advance with new features, improved performance, and refined syntax"

Typically, when people say that a language "reached 1.0", they mean the very end of that process.

Re: Swift Has Reached 1.0

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What do you mean?

"You’ll notice we’re using the word “GM”, not “final”. That’s because Swift will continue to advance with new features, improved performance, and refined syntax" Typically, when people say that a language "reached 1.0", they mean the very end of that process.

Ah. Well, other languages also get new features, improved performance, and refined syntax after 1.0. Are you objecting to the implication that the pace of development here will be more rapid, or an assumption that they plan on making backwards-incompatible changes?

Re: Swift Has Reached 1.0

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Open-sourcing it would be really cool to see. Chris Lattner last said he wasn't sure if they were going to open source it ( http://lists.cs.uiuc.edu/pipermail/llvmdev/2014-June/073698.... )

Yep, we damn need a bit of more competition within bigs, right now seems just between Google and Mozilla (for the type of language).

What competition?!? Until either of them support their languages on their respective OSs there isn't any competition.

Re: Swift Has Reached 1.0

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Hey guys, do you know if swift will be ever open-sourced? After the WWDC they said that was early to think about it while in beta. So, what's the status now?

Their live feed yesterday was only available on Safari. Isn't it obvious that they want their herd only inside of a barn?

Re: Swift Has Reached 1.0

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That's fantastic! Now, too bad I can't watch your video tutorials on my Macbook Pro using Chrome. Or Windows 7 using Chrome. The messaging on the site declares it requires Safari. So much of the open web... Quietly moves along to Android.

The web is not open. It's a closed environment that requires using a specific set of legacy technologies: HTML5, JS, CSS.

Re: Swift Has Reached 1.0

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I am not the biggest Apple fan in the world, and will probably not use Swift professionally, but I'm still super enthused about it as a language and I am glad it's entering the marketplace. We're going to have sum types and type inference in a mainstream language! For the first time, professors can teach a language like SML and have a good response to the question "so how is this going to help me in the real world?"…

They didn't need Swift for real world examples.

F#, Scala, OCaml, Haskell, Clojure already have uses at big financial corporations and bio-informatics.

However, Swift is another great way for spreading the ML gospel to mainstream developers, specially if it slowly takes Objective-C's place in Apple's heart.

Re: Swift Has Reached 1.0

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I am not the biggest Apple fan in the world, and will probably not use Swift professionally, but I'm still super enthused about it as a language and I am glad it's entering the marketplace. We're going to have sum types and type inference in a mainstream language! For the first time, professors can teach a language like SML and have a good response to the question "so how is this going to help me in the real world?"…

They didn't need Swift for real world examples. F#, Scala, OCaml, Haskell, Clojure already have uses at big financial corporations and bio-informatics. However, Swift is another great way for spreading the ML gospel to mainstream developers, specially if it slowly takes Objective-C's place in Apple's heart.

Scala/Clojure have been used pretty much everywhere.

Especially with the move towards microservices and reactive architectures.

Re: Swift Has Reached 1.0

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I am not the biggest Apple fan in the world, and will probably not use Swift professionally, but I'm still super enthused about it as a language and I am glad it's entering the marketplace. We're going to have sum types and type inference in a mainstream language! For the first time, professors can teach a language like SML and have a good response to the question "so how is this going to help me in the real world?"…

They didn't need Swift for real world examples. F#, Scala, OCaml, Haskell, Clojure already have uses at big financial corporations and bio-informatics. However, Swift is another great way for spreading the ML gospel to mainstream developers, specially if it slowly takes Objective-C's place in Apple's heart.

Does Clojure support pattern matching? AFAIK, the only thing that is "functional" about Clojure is its immutable data structures (and closures, but even JS has those).
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