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Chaos Computer Club Supports Chelsea Manning and Edward Snowden

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Re: Chaos Computer Club Supports Chelsea Manning and Edward Snowden

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I don't really understand supporting Chelsea Manning, or equating her plight with Snowden's. Snowden had a purpose and a plan, and executed it while attempting to keep people from getting hurt. Chelsea Manning lashed out at an army that didn't support her and put her in the wrong position. The military may have mistreated her, but they're still not the same thing.

Oh god, I assumed Chelsea was a separate leaker from Bradley Manning, and instantly thought "Well, she was probably acting rash" - whereas my opinion of "Bradley Manning" differed. I'm sexist. :\

Well, at least realizing your bias puts you ahead of the other 99% of people who think they aren't biased, and you can try to keep it in mind and reexamine decisions. That's what I try to do, as much as I'm capable, at least.

Re: Chaos Computer Club Supports Chelsea Manning and Edward Snowden

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A worthy cause. Also see this page for places to donate to Snowdens defense. https://wikileaks.org/freesnowden (scroll down to Other options) Location for Chelsea Mannings defense/appeal fund: http://couragetoresist.org/2010/09/chelsea-manning-defense-f...

Does that imply that Snowden has some intention of returning to the US and facing trial? Everything I've read from him indicates he doesn't plan on it. If so, what's the purpose of donating to fund his legal defense?

true. could also donate just as a sort of "hey thanks"

Re: Chaos Computer Club Supports Chelsea Manning and Edward Snowden

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Or the much more common singular they . http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singular_they#Usage

"née" isn't a pronoun; it's used to identify someone's birth name as distinct from her current name, as in "Hillary Clinton, née Rodham". A French-to-English dictionary says it literally means "born". (And when conjugated with a male noun, in French it would be "né".)

Thank you for this explanation! I was not aware.
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