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Re: Beyond Pricing – Automatic Dynamic Pricing for Airbnb

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Surge pricing for AirBNB, and suddenly we're back to looking our networks for floors to crash on and spare rooms to be had. I guess the rule of thumb is that even when costs are eroded, profits increased, intermediaries disintermediated... the prices will rise to the maximum levels that the market will bear. It just takes away the magic of being able to find that rare, cheap and great place. The sharing culture is no…

> I guess the rule of thumb is that even when costs are eroded, profits increased, intermediaries disintermediated... the prices will rise to the maximum levels that the market will bear. Price has always been about demand versus supply, not demand versus cost. Reducing costs in situations where supply is constrained by some other factor will just increase profits.

Bullshit. Price has not always been about anything. Perception of price has been highly manipulated to fit the goals of sellers. Price has been manipulated to exploit the ignorance of buyers.

Your statement is both myopic and mentally violent with a touch of naivete - price is always an illusion which is modified to fit the actual relationship between buyer and seller.

There are so many instances where the price can actually mean "what the seller is comfortable getting for his product"

Shoot the "market can bear " bs in the face.

Re: Beyond Pricing – Automatic Dynamic Pricing for Airbnb

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Surge pricing for AirBNB, and suddenly we're back to looking our networks for floors to crash on and spare rooms to be had. I guess the rule of thumb is that even when costs are eroded, profits increased, intermediaries disintermediated... the prices will rise to the maximum levels that the market will bear. It just takes away the magic of being able to find that rare, cheap and great place. The sharing culture is no…

> I guess the rule of thumb is that even when costs are eroded, profits increased, intermediaries disintermediated... the prices will rise to the maximum levels that the market will bear. Price has always been about demand versus supply, not demand versus cost. Reducing costs in situations where supply is constrained by some other factor will just increase profits.

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Re: Beyond Pricing – Automatic Dynamic Pricing for Airbnb

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Surge pricing for AirBNB, and suddenly we're back to looking our networks for floors to crash on and spare rooms to be had. I guess the rule of thumb is that even when costs are eroded, profits increased, intermediaries disintermediated... the prices will rise to the maximum levels that the market will bear. It just takes away the magic of being able to find that rare, cheap and great place. The sharing culture is no…

> I guess the rule of thumb is that even when costs are eroded, profits increased, intermediaries disintermediated... the prices will rise to the maximum levels that the market will bear. Price has always been about demand versus supply, not demand versus cost. Reducing costs in situations where supply is constrained by some other factor will just increase profits.

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Re: Beyond Pricing – Automatic Dynamic Pricing for Airbnb

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Agree. I think the modeling is fine but it always seems to neglect consumer preferences for slower moving prices.

Customer preferences for slower moving prices are just like customer preferences for lower prices. They must be traded off against customer preferences for availability. If prices didn't move then the market wouldn't clear, and some capacity or demand (at the current price) would be wasted.

I said "slower moving" not "fixed".

Re: Beyond Pricing – Automatic Dynamic Pricing for Airbnb

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Surge pricing for AirBNB, and suddenly we're back to looking our networks for floors to crash on and spare rooms to be had. I guess the rule of thumb is that even when costs are eroded, profits increased, intermediaries disintermediated... the prices will rise to the maximum levels that the market will bear. It just takes away the magic of being able to find that rare, cheap and great place. The sharing culture is no…

On the other side of this argument, from what I've seen on AirBNB, a significant percentage of owners have dramatically overpriced their accommodations. Consequently, widespread adoption of a yield management system like this would lower the prices of many places on many days (while increasing the occupancy rate).

You're absolutely right. We see this all the time, partly because owners don't know what a reasonable occupancy rate is and how they compare to other listings, partly because people have an attachment to their place and overvalue it, and partly because they are only willing to deal with the work of welcoming a guest for a certain price.

Re: Beyond Pricing – Automatic Dynamic Pricing for Airbnb

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Concern troll is concerned

Please rethink these types of comments. They don't do anything to improve Hacker News.

Why can't I down vote the concern troll? Or, why aren't those with the power to down vote able to detect the concern troll? A valid argument was made that couchsurfing.com is an actual sharing economy and AirBnB has stopped being one. The concern troll ignored and derailed the argument.

Re: Beyond Pricing – Automatic Dynamic Pricing for Airbnb

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Please rethink these types of comments. They don't do anything to improve Hacker News.

Why can't I down vote the concern troll? Or, why aren't those with the power to down vote able to detect the concern troll? A valid argument was made that couchsurfing.com is an actual sharing economy and AirBnB has stopped being one. The concern troll ignored and derailed the argument.

This comment is much more useful than your grandparent comment. Down voting might be the correct action (if you were able to), but a short meme/snark comment is almost never appreciated.

Re: Beyond Pricing – Automatic Dynamic Pricing for Airbnb

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post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Customer preferences for slower moving prices are just like customer preferences for lower prices. They must be traded off against customer preferences for availability. If prices didn't move then the market wouldn't clear, and some capacity or demand (at the current price) would be wasted.

I said "slower moving" not "fixed".

You did. Perhaps my last sentence should have read:

If prices didn't move fast enough in response to changes in demand/supply then the market wouldn't clear, and some capacity or demand (at the current price) would be wasted.

Re: Beyond Pricing – Automatic Dynamic Pricing for Airbnb

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I prefer couchsurfing.com anyway. It's an example of the actual sharing economy, and without the grey-area legal shadiness.

This part of couchsurfing (the third auto-suggest result when I start typing couchsurfing into Chrome) is my concern: http://www.businessinsider.com/couchsurfing-the-best-hook-up...

Consensual sex concerns you... why?

Re: Beyond Pricing – Automatic Dynamic Pricing for Airbnb

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why can't I down vote the concern troll? Or, why aren't those with the power to down vote able to detect the concern troll? A valid argument was made that couchsurfing.com is an actual sharing economy and AirBnB has stopped being one. The concern troll ignored and derailed the argument.

This comment is much more useful than your grandparent comment. Down voting might be the correct action (if you were able to), but a short meme/snark comment is almost never appreciated.

Thanks for HNplaining to me. The question was rhetorical. I know the answer: this is an echo chamber and AirBnB is precious.
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