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Re: Elasticsearch Raises $70 Million

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Post by tveita »

bbq wrote: post #48
didip wrote: post #45

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* Kibana on ElasticSearch. This is huge. You get a polished Search & Graphing UI with very little effort. * Much more approachable config. * Its clustering is easier to setup. * Eventhough logstash is a bit heavy for my taste, the whole ELK stack is really nice for aggregating server logs.

Agreed about logstash being too heavy for your app servers. It would be nice to have the functionality in a trim, native binary. As things are, one can always direct an app sever's syslog to a logging fleet running logstash (or elasticsearch running embedded logstash): http://cookbook.logstash.net/recipes/rsyslog-agent/

I think that's what Heka is supposed to be.

It looks pretty promising, but I have yet to meet anyone who uses it.

https://blog.mozilla.org/services/2013/04/30/introducing-hek...

Re: Elasticsearch Raises $70 Million

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Post by arafalov »

latj wrote: post #32
jasonkolb wrote: post #13

I'm sitting in Elasticsearch training right now (during a caffeine break). These are some really great guys that know their stuff, and they're committed to contributing back to the OSS version everything that makes sense. They contribute a ton of code back to Lucene and employ a lot of the brightest minds in this space. On the product side, I'm sitting here being amazed at some of the problems they've solved very ele…

How is it better than Solr? I havent looked at Elastic Search in a long time, so I really do want to know. Not trying to pick a fight. ;)

An overview presentation video was just released: http://www.berlinbuzzwords.de/session/side-side-elasticsearc...

If you want to know more details, vote for my talk in November, I'll be digging into much more technical comparison: http://lucenerevolution.uservoice.com/forums/254257-open-sou...

Re: Elasticsearch Raises $70 Million

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Post by arafalov »

didip wrote: post #45
latj wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How is it better than Solr? I havent looked at Elastic Search in a long time, so I really do want to know. Not trying to pick a fight. ;)

* Kibana on ElasticSearch. This is huge. You get a polished Search & Graphing UI with very little effort. * Much more approachable config. * Its clustering is easier to setup. * Eventhough logstash is a bit heavy for my taste, the whole ELK stack is really nice for aggregating server logs.

Solr has an ELK equivalent, called SILK. Actually uses most of the same components (Banana=Kibana for Solr, etc): http://www.lucidworks.com/lucidworks-silk/

Re: Elasticsearch Raises $70 Million

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Post by arafalov »

simonw wrote: post #24
enscr wrote: post #22

Could someone explain in a few lines why & how is elasticsearch a revolutionary thing (technically) ?

It's what Solr would look like if you designed it today.

More specifically, it is what Solr would look like if you designed it today but also did not care about dealing with all the use cases Solr deals with TODAY.

The best proof is that Elastic Search is slowly hitting the same problem Solr hit at some point in the past and has to deal with them (scripting is now disabled by default, analysis/query language is slowly getting more complex, etc).

Not trying to downgrade ElasticSearch, they have done great things and have features Solr hasn't matched (yet). Percolation is one (though check Luwak for a comparison: http://www.berlinbuzzwords.de/session/turning-search-upside-... )

Re: Elasticsearch Raises $70 Million

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Post by btgeekboy »

didip wrote: post #45
latj wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How is it better than Solr? I havent looked at Elastic Search in a long time, so I really do want to know. Not trying to pick a fight. ;)

* Kibana on ElasticSearch. This is huge. You get a polished Search & Graphing UI with very little effort. * Much more approachable config. * Its clustering is easier to setup. * Eventhough logstash is a bit heavy for my taste, the whole ELK stack is really nice for aggregating server logs.

Re: logstash too heavy

That's what logstash-forwarder[1] (formerly lumberjack) is for. It's in Go, not Java.

[1] https://github.com/elasticsearch/logstash-forwarder

Re: Elasticsearch Raises $70 Million

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Post by ejain »

nl wrote: post #44
latj wrote: post #32

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How is it better than Solr? I havent looked at Elastic Search in a long time, so I really do want to know. Not trying to pick a fight. ;)

I've used both, although not Solr 4. Elasticsearch has easier config, especially for clustering. It is designed to be schemaless so you can push almost any JSON data into it. Performance is adequate in both. It's not a big advantage either way, unless you need clustering.

Elasticsearch isn't really schemaless, but you can have it guess and extend the schema as fields are encountered (or you can have it treat specific field as blobs of unindexed json).

Re: Elasticsearch Raises $70 Million

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Post by bbq »

tveita wrote: post #51
bbq wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agreed about logstash being too heavy for your app servers. It would be nice to have the functionality in a trim, native binary. As things are, one can always direct an app sever's syslog to a logging fleet running logstash (or elasticsearch running embedded logstash): http://cookbook.logstash.net/recipes/rsyslog-agent/

I think that's what Heka is supposed to be. It looks pretty promising, but I have yet to meet anyone who uses it. https://blog.mozilla.org/services/2013/04/30/introducing-hek...

Oh, that looks very nice. Neat to embed Lua as a sandboxed plugin environment.

Re: Elasticsearch Raises $70 Million

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Post by thedevopsguy »

hackerboos wrote: post #4
asm89 wrote: post #2

What I find interesting about the Elasticsearch story is the success it has given that the core product (the search server) is completely open source.

My fear is that with money comes an 'Enterprise' edition.

Elastic Search make their money from Enterprise support licenses. There are so many ways of installing it , scaling and optimizing depending on application. Don't forget the training around. You have IBs like Goldman Sachs using it for log analytics. So the services around that are needed and real. I don't think they will need an enterprise version.

Re: Elasticsearch Raises $70 Million

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Post by jasonwocky »

clubhi wrote: post #19
michaelochurch wrote: post #14

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Open-source is becoming the only way to develop (and, especially , maintain) complex software. The fact that the engineers can gain employer-independent reputations gives them an incentive that's astronomically expensive (as hedge fund compensation goes) to replicate otherwise. The world is finally figuring out that it's impossible to employ top talent, but that it can be quite lucrative to sponsor it.

It's not impossible to employ top talent. That is a very ignorant statement.

So is, "Open-source is becoming the only way to develop (and, especially, maintain) complex software". This is hyperbole. Complex software has been developed and maintained for over half a century, in myriad ways.

Re: Elasticsearch Raises $70 Million

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Post by edwintorok »

I always thought that Elasticsearch was something provided by Amazon, and hence not really interested in it. So I was rather surprised to see in the title that they raised money.

Apparently what Amazon provides is called Elastic MapReduce, not Elastic Search.

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