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NFL players: height and weight over time

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Re: NFL players: height and weight over time

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I wonder if this has compounded the TBI and concussion issue over the years. I think sports medicine in general has gotten much better and the average player is probably bigger and stronger and thus able to hit harder than 20+ years ago...

In other words, steroids have become more effective.

This actually starts before steroids were invented.

Re: NFL players: height and weight over time

#52

How accurate are these figures? I know that many teams will inflate the posted weight and height of their players. There is no regulation requiring that the publicly posted figures are accurate so they nudge them higher for psychological effect.

That is a problem in college, but once they hit pro they've gone through the combine and they are measured.

Re: NFL players: height and weight over time

#54

The player equipment has also become much more advanced, but is it helping or hurting? They should go back to leather helmets and no pads (like rugby) and see what happens.

+1 this. My guess is one season of natural selection would be enough to change players behaviour.

Re: NFL players: height and weight over time

#55
post #53

It seems to become bimodal towards the last decade or two. Any idea as to why?

I noticed that too. It looks like their is a further specialization into linemen and "skill" players. Linemen need all of the weight they can get where "skill" players want to be bigger and stronger to some extent but still need to be agile.

Re: NFL players: height and weight over time

#57
post #50

Steroids. Relevant: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bigger,_Stronger,_Faster*

Steroids don't make you taller. Also if you devote yourself to nutrition and weight lifting, as a 6 foot male it's not too hard to exceed 200 pounds. I don't doubt steroids play a part, but there are many other factors (in addition to just the fact that football became a national obsession so is attracting more potential players). And prior to 1940, the same players played offense and defense, along with limited subs…

Also if you habitually neglect nutrition and weight lifting, as a 6 foot male it's not too hard to exceed 200 pounds.

Re: NFL players: height and weight over time

#58
post #50

Steroids. Relevant: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bigger,_Stronger,_Faster*

Steroids don't make you taller. Also if you devote yourself to nutrition and weight lifting, as a 6 foot male it's not too hard to exceed 200 pounds. I don't doubt steroids play a part, but there are many other factors (in addition to just the fact that football became a national obsession so is attracting more potential players). And prior to 1940, the same players played offense and defense, along with limited subs…

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Re: NFL players: height and weight over time

#59
post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Malcolm Gladwell has looked at this issue[1]. He sees football as being analogous to dogfighting. Popular at the time and with fans, but the science behind it is scary. I've experienced a severe traumatic brain injury (sTBI), meaning I've seen many brain doctors. I have seen a neuro-omptomolgist (brain-eye doctor) who sees a football player who can't even add up his checkbook (meaning he can't add, not this his check…

I know a few people who do neuropsychological testing (testing IQ, various kinds of memory, spatial reasoning, attention, and so on). Some college athletes are now getting "before" tests, as a baseline to evaluate the severity of damage after any subsequent concussion. One tester says she's seen players attempt to do poorly on the "before" tests, so they'll be able to keep playing even after a concussion impairs thei…

Why can't one sell their the cognitive ability if they choose to? If the player is "smart" enough to cheat the test then ultimately it is their choice. Society has deemed their muscles more valuable then their intelligence and I don't think we would be turning towards them for their thoughts on optimizations for database wrappers.

Re: NFL players: height and weight over time

#60
I find it interesting that a break appears in 1993 where the Extremely Huge (lineman) separate from those merely Very Large.

My old man once commented that he his Big 10 college alma mater once had someone on the football team whose only virtue was being 275 pounds.

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