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LXQt – The next generation of the Lightweight Desktop Environment

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Re: LXQt – The next generation of the Lightweight Desktop Environment

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Depending on what you mean by "prettier," that would kind of defeat the purpose of LXDE.

For starters, they could try to get the spacing in and between UI elements right. For example, the text in drop down menus looks pretty misaligned in those screenshots.

That's the first thing I noticed on their homepage, the spacing looks off to me too. It's a matter of balancing tension between visual events, not something you learn in high school art class ;-) On the other hand, I'm usually on a laptop and want to cram as much information as possible into a small space. I love how Gmail has cozy, comfortable and compact modes!

Re: LXQt – The next generation of the Lightweight Desktop Environment

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hmm I use KDE (latest) with indexing disabled, akonadi disabled, 3d desktop effects disabled it seems very similar to LXQt and the project it replaces when it comes to resource usage and useability, except it is more mature and support a few more things. Thats basically what keeps me on KDE. I would think KDE should disable akonadi and stuff by default personally - its super useable without all the heavy weight "crap…

I remember when I first switched to kde 4.0 and everything slowed to a crawl because some background process (nepomuk) thought it was a good idea to index the whole filesystem.

Re: LXQt – The next generation of the Lightweight Desktop Environment

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The lightweight Linux desktop environments have been battling for years now over who's Windows 95 clone is better. It's a nice paradigm because it's familiar to many users and serves its purpose. However, does low resource usage necessarily imply lack of innovation regarding user experience? Or does familiarity in this space just trump other concerns and experimentation should be left to the fat environments like Gno…

> However, does low resource usage necessarily imply lack of innovation regarding user experience?

If you care about UX innovation, LXDE is not for you. That niche is filled by KDE 4, Gnome 3, and Unity. With XP support ending, I've used LXDE (Lubuntu) to rescue 2 old family machines that Gnome 3 and KDE couldn't handle without thrashing.

How does the memory usage of LXQt Desktop compare to LXDE and Razor-qt? I hope they've managed to keep it down.

Re: LXQt – The next generation of the Lightweight Desktop Environment

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I think there is a huge opportunity for a traditional, lightweight desktop that uses Qt. Both the Gnome and KDE camps have alienated large parts of their userbase during the KDE4/Gnome3 transition. I personally find both to be less usable than their predecessors. That leaves projects like Xfce/Mate to fill the gap. The problem with these environments is that they use GTK2, which is bitrotting. Migrating to GTK3 is ri…

the modern gnome2 already exists as 'gnome3 classic mode' or mate (which will support gtk3). lxde is also nice.

Gnome3 classic mode is mostly just Gnome3 + some extensions. The user interface is only superficially similar to Gnome2. Most things feel crippled compared to what came before it and it loses functionality on every release.

Mate is excellent and truly deserving of the title "modern Gnome2". It's my desktop of choice. Under the hood it's using a lot of Gnome3 tech while the user interface is familiar and usable for desktop users. The problem remains, however, that it is stuck with either a languishing GTK2 or at the mercy of Gnome with GTK3.

Re: LXQt – The next generation of the Lightweight Desktop Environment

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http://etoileos.com/etoile/ http://fluxbox.org/screenshots/ http://awesome.naquadah.org/ http://www.nongnu.org/ratpoison/ http://www.enlightenment.org/ss/ http://windowmaker.org/

etoileos - last news update 2012 and wasn't even about the project fluxbox - active and kind've interesting awesome - more of just a WM than full DE ratpoison - ditto enlightenment - okay, kind've resembles Win 95 too... but more of a DE than the others you listed windowmaker - been around forever; hasn't really "innovated" in forever; just a NeXT clone if I remember correctly for GNUStep I think my point stands. I w…

etioleos actually does have some stuff happening, if you go and look at the mailing list :)

Re: LXQt – The next generation of the Lightweight Desktop Environment

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The lightweight Linux desktop environments have been battling for years now over who's Windows 95 clone is better. It's a nice paradigm because it's familiar to many users and serves its purpose. However, does low resource usage necessarily imply lack of innovation regarding user experience? Or does familiarity in this space just trump other concerns and experimentation should be left to the fat environments like Gno…

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Re: LXQt – The next generation of the Lightweight Desktop Environment

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etoileos - last news update 2012 and wasn't even about the project fluxbox - active and kind've interesting awesome - more of just a WM than full DE ratpoison - ditto enlightenment - okay, kind've resembles Win 95 too... but more of a DE than the others you listed windowmaker - been around forever; hasn't really "innovated" in forever; just a NeXT clone if I remember correctly for GNUStep I think my point stands. I w…

etioleos actually does have some stuff happening, if you go and look at the mailing list :)

I really really think these projects need to have an automated notification to the devs to update their news page, or even automagically post a digest of mailing list activity. Lots of projects I've thought were dead have had lots of stuff going on behind the scenes.
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