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Re: Ask HN: AdSense alternatives?

#51

Honestly, none of that. Create your own "ad network". Basically, figure out the theme of your blog and what kind of people it attracts and then find affiliate programs for that. For example. Let's say your tutorials are for developers. What do developers need? * development tools * hosting * further courses/learning That will yield a pretty good list of affiliates that will convert well such as: * New Relic * Digital…

Please don't tell me your advocating using affiliates in place of an ad network like AdSense. While on the surface it makes sense, and if you're lucky you'll find great affiliate programs, but there's an equally, some would say much dirtier side to affiliate programs. Success is the key to how your relationships go. Get too successful and chances are the company you have an affiliate agreement with will get tired of…

Well, I'd agree with the competition and replication. But that's the nature of business. Once you get good enough, others will use your work as an inspiration to outperform you or delete you out of the equation.

Outside of that, I never reached the volume where I had to worry about the pay outs myself.

But I have worked for companies that HAVE reached a VERY high volume (read: millions in affiliate sales) and they had no problem either, as long as a contract was signed outside of the regular affiliate program to control traffic, cost, etc. I think that's the only reasonable thing you can do: have a direct partnership with another company once the volume reaches a critical mass.

Having an alternative is, of course, a must-have. Or rather, like you said, diversification. Having multiple affiliates, multiple working relationships.

I don't agree with you on direct ad sales. It doesn't mitigate anything. It's the same deal as the rest of the advertising world, nothing special about it.

Re: Ask HN: AdSense alternatives?

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Todd from @BuySellAds here. An ideal setup is one in which you utilize about a handful of different companies in the "Tier 2" position. Probably no more than a handful though, because after that it gets hard to manage and rather convoluted. Tier 1 is your directly sold ads (stuff you sell on your own directly to an advertiser or through a company like BuySellAds). Tier 2 is where the AdSense's of the world will live.…

Hm, this is what google shows when you type the name of your company (at least in safari) http://imgur.com/cfdFdvd There is no link to click on

same in chrome

Re: Ask HN: AdSense alternatives?

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post #43

Todd from @BuySellAds here. An ideal setup is one in which you utilize about a handful of different companies in the "Tier 2" position. Probably no more than a handful though, because after that it gets hard to manage and rather convoluted. Tier 1 is your directly sold ads (stuff you sell on your own directly to an advertiser or through a company like BuySellAds). Tier 2 is where the AdSense's of the world will live.…

Hm, this is what google shows when you type the name of your company (at least in safari) http://imgur.com/cfdFdvd There is no link to click on

Try disabling adblock and then try again ;)

Re: Ask HN: AdSense alternatives?

#54
Agree with Todd's general setup. CPM's on display ads are in a death spiral thanks to a glut of inventory and programmatic buying/targeting options.

Particularly for a tutorial site I would consider paid, clearly marked sponsored tutorials that you produce and keep full editorial control over. In moderation it can work well and still have educational value for readers and drive results for advertisers way beyond any display ads, and significantly more revenue for you. Full disclosure I handle direct ad sales for publishers with this exact same model at TechCrowds.com (including representing a few BuySellAds publishers)

Re: Ask HN: AdSense alternatives?

#55
post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hm, this is what google shows when you type the name of your company (at least in safari) http://imgur.com/cfdFdvd There is no link to click on

Try disabling adblock and then try again ;)

Uff, that's really unfortunate when the adblock block the name of your company.

Re: Ask HN: AdSense alternatives?

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Todd from @BuySellAds here. An ideal setup is one in which you utilize about a handful of different companies in the "Tier 2" position. Probably no more than a handful though, because after that it gets hard to manage and rather convoluted. Tier 1 is your directly sold ads (stuff you sell on your own directly to an advertiser or through a company like BuySellAds). Tier 2 is where the AdSense's of the world will live.…

Hi Todd. I just asked a competitor for his company's policy on App Store browser hijacking [1]. I.e. Ads that automatically open iTunes or Google Play. What is your company's policy regarding this extremely shady underhanded practice? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7675109

Why is this shady? If I intentionally click on a link to an app, why would I not want that link to open the App Store?

Re: Ask HN: AdSense alternatives?

#57
Does anyone know of an ad network which pays out in Bitcoin but targetted towards general users? Coinurl, a-ads etc have an extremely low CTR because they are targetted to only Bitcoins users.

Are there any plans for popular ad networks to payout in Bitcoin anytime soon?

Another solution would be to use affiliate programmes such as Privateinternetaccess but once again, it would generate a low CTR I would presume.

Re: Ask HN: AdSense alternatives?

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post #44

Todd from @BuySellAds here. An ideal setup is one in which you utilize about a handful of different companies in the "Tier 2" position. Probably no more than a handful though, because after that it gets hard to manage and rather convoluted. Tier 1 is your directly sold ads (stuff you sell on your own directly to an advertiser or through a company like BuySellAds). Tier 2 is where the AdSense's of the world will live.…

Hi Todd. I just asked a competitor for his company's policy on App Store browser hijacking [1]. I.e. Ads that automatically open iTunes or Google Play. What is your company's policy regarding this extremely shady underhanded practice? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7675109

Our policy is basically to just never be shady... shady stuff is best left for other folks who enjoy making a quick buck. We just don't deal with shady stuff like this.

Re: Ask HN: AdSense alternatives?

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post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hi Todd. I just asked a competitor for his company's policy on App Store browser hijacking [1]. I.e. Ads that automatically open iTunes or Google Play. What is your company's policy regarding this extremely shady underhanded practice? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7675109

Why is this shady? If I intentionally click on a link to an app, why would I not want that link to open the App Store?

There have been ads getting through some of the exchanges that automagically open the AppStore or iTunes without you clicking or tapping anything...

Re: Ask HN: AdSense alternatives?

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post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Try disabling adblock and then try again ;)

Uff, that's really unfortunate when the adblock block the name of your company.

Tell me about... cough someone at AdBlock please write a smarter regex for the default filter... cough
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