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Popcorn Time Devs Drop Like Flies But No One Will Talk

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Re: Popcorn Time Devs Drop Like Flies But No One Will Talk

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Post by Joeboy »

defen wrote: post #48
Joeboy wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was thinking about approximately this just yesterday. I have a banal coding problem that's in the way of what I actually want to do, and would be prepared to pay somebody maybe a hundred bucks to make it go away. Probably there exists a person with the skills and experience to make that happen easily, and for whom that would constitute a non-insulting payment, but I don't know how to find them. There are open sourc…

I tried running that code and for me it segfaulted at line 26 (plugin.get_num_ports() call) Also, not sure if it's relevant but http://lv2plug.in/plugins/eg-amp returns a 404 for me...

Interesting. That line wfm with the latest version of lilv.

And no, that's just a plugin id, the fact there's no web page at that address is a red herring.

Edit: If you're interested in pursuing this further, please get in touch via my website, which is on my profile. Cheers!

Re: Popcorn Time Devs Drop Like Flies But No One Will Talk

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Post by CocaKoala »

Touche wrote: post #44
calinet6 wrote: post #35

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This is becoming less and less important. My TV is just a display for a Mac Mini, for example. If I had an AppleTV, I could just mirror the content straight to that. Before all this useful extravagance, I just hooked my computer up to my TV using (gasp) a cable. Worked great, and me and most other people I know, especially those younger than me, are fully used to making this work. Even then, my girlfriend could not c…

> This is becoming less and less important. That's fine and all, but it's very important today. There were file sharing services before Napster, but Napster became popular after cdrw started being put in desktops you could buy at the local computer store (yes, people went to those back then). > Even then, my girlfriend could not care less about even having a TV. She watches everything on her computer and is perfectly…

Can you submit any evidence that a TV is anything more than a bigger computer screen?

My TV has HDMI inputs; if I wanted to move my computer, I could hook my computer up to the TV. Apple has an accessory where the primary selling point (for me) is that it can bounce output from a computer to a TV. There's an entire family of computers where the entire point of them is to be hooked up to TVs and used as media centers.

Saying that popcorn-time isn't napster for movies because people don't watch movies on their computer, they watch them on their tv isn't really different from saying that napster isn't napster for music because people don't listen to music on their computer, they listen to music on their stereo.

Re: Popcorn Time Devs Drop Like Flies But No One Will Talk

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Post by havaze »

Joeboy wrote: post #50
havaze wrote: post #47

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Seems to me that the link is wrong and the application doesn't do any checking and thus segfaults.

Do you mean http://lv2plug.in/plugins/eg-amp ? That's just an identifier for the plugin, not a link as such.

Thats a strange syntax for an identifier, anyway running it with sudo makes the segfault go away for me so I guess it's some permission problem.

Re: Popcorn Time Devs Drop Like Flies But No One Will Talk

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Post by Joeboy »

havaze wrote: post #53
Joeboy wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you mean http://lv2plug.in/plugins/eg-amp ? That's just an identifier for the plugin, not a link as such.

Thats a strange syntax for an identifier, anyway running it with sudo makes the segfault go away for me so I guess it's some permission problem.

Sudo doesn't help for me. It looks like it's getting into to the wrapped C function, then it segfaults when trying to read from the input buffer.

Edit: If you're interested in pursuing this further, please get in touch via my website, which is on my profile. Cheers!

Re: Popcorn Time Devs Drop Like Flies But No One Will Talk

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Post by catshirt »

Touche wrote: post #44
calinet6 wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is becoming less and less important. My TV is just a display for a Mac Mini, for example. If I had an AppleTV, I could just mirror the content straight to that. Before all this useful extravagance, I just hooked my computer up to my TV using (gasp) a cable. Worked great, and me and most other people I know, especially those younger than me, are fully used to making this work. Even then, my girlfriend could not c…

> This is becoming less and less important. That's fine and all, but it's very important today. There were file sharing services before Napster, but Napster became popular after cdrw started being put in desktops you could buy at the local computer store (yes, people went to those back then). > Even then, my girlfriend could not care less about even having a TV. She watches everything on her computer and is perfectly…

> That's fine and all, but it's very important today. There were file sharing services before Napster, but Napster became popular after cdrw started being put in desktops you could buy at the local computer store (yes, people went to those back then).

are you forgetting Apple TV, Chromecast, Amazon Fire TV, HDMI cables, etc?

Re: Popcorn Time Devs Drop Like Flies But No One Will Talk

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Post by tapia »

What would happen if suddenly, a very big number of developers (I really mean it... like thousands of developers) began to contribute to such a project. Would hollywood start to sue everyone? And what if some of them would be some "rockstar developers" (like very important for the software world)... yeah... I'm just dreaming, but it would be like the equivalent to a mass protest, that they just wouldn't be able to handle.

Re: Popcorn Time Devs Drop Like Flies But No One Will Talk

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Post by mlangdon »

higherpurpose wrote: post #23
JoeAltmaier wrote: post #14

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Is 'politically undesirable' the new PC phrase for 'illegal'?

Gagging developers for writing code seems way beyond "legality" to me. They should be able to at least say "I'm being sued for developing Popcorn Time". If your government is gagging you from saying even that...then something has gone terribly wrong somewhere, and yes that does seem like a totalitarian tool when used like that.

There's all manner of totalitarianism-lite in the US. This is not likely one of them. Its a safer bet that this was handled directly by mail/phone/email without involving an actual court. Legal threat under possibly enforceable law does not equal government action. We don't need to blame the government for this to be a bad thing.

Re: Popcorn Time Devs Drop Like Flies But No One Will Talk

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Post by nnnnni »

goldenkey wrote: post #41
nakedrobot2 wrote: post #4

Popcorn Time is _this_ close to being the Napster of Film, Hollywood must be literally shitting bricks. Someone has probably taken it upon himself to threaten these devs in a nasty (and perhaps illegal) way. Surely the story will come out eventually. In the meantime, Popcorn Time is fully available to download. So I'm not sure what genie they're putting back in the bottle....

I don't see why Popcorn time doesn't offer legitimate ways to purchase the content. For an honest TV index with multiple streaming sources, check out http://episodeslist.com It's updated daily.

It's likely because Hollywood won't LET them "offer legitimate ways to purchase the content".

There's a device that will allow normal people to watch new theater movies at home, but it's $500 per viewing after buying the highly-secured $35000 Prima video server. There are also a bunch of requirements that the company checks in person before allowing someone to buy into the service.

Re: Popcorn Time Devs Drop Like Flies But No One Will Talk

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Post by DanBC »

PeterisP wrote: post #34
DanBC wrote: post #29

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Circumventing a rights control measure is illegal and there are probably lawyers who would want to make that case to test it in court.

1) The software that is included in popcorntime isn't circumventing any rights control measure - the bittorrents that it accesses don't include any rights control measures that would need to be circumvented. The people who originally supplied and seeded those may (or may not) have used some software that circumvents rights control measures, but that's not included in Popcorntime. 2) Circumventing rights control measu…

DMCA implements two treaties from WIPO. These were also implemented by the EU as the Copyright Directive. Thus, circumventing a copyright control measure is not legal in some EU countries.

The point is not if what Popcorn Time is doing is illegal, but that there are plenty of well funded lawyers who will take money to make the argument that it is and will happily spend a long time in court arguing that point.

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