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Re: IE6 is dead

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Post by bigiain »

hesselink wrote: post #39
toxican wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

what's the benefit of excluding the http:? I'd never seen that prior to a few years ago when the jQuery links started doing it.

It's a protocol relative link. So if the page is served over http, it'll be an http link, and if the page is served over https, it'll be an https link. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protocol_relative_URL#Protocol-...

And it breaks unexpectedly (and sometimes hilariously) when people use it in html email, it turns into a file:// "link".

Re: IE6 is dead

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Post by NicoJuicy »

Actually, XP has a shorter life-span time here in Belgium (online banking activities are blocked for Windows XP), so people actually buy a newer PC or upgrade their PC for a newer Windows.

Re: IE6 is dead

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Post by xixixao »

mattmanser wrote: post #33
owenversteeg wrote: post #12

Reports of its death are, from my experience, greatly exaggerated. It's still fairly widely used in businesses; as they say "if it's not broke, don't fix it." (Despite the fact that it is broken on many sites.) For anyone that wants to use a modern CSS framework that supports IE5.5+, check out Min ( http://minfwk.com ). Disclaimer: I made it.

I know this is a bit pedantic but it's definitely not 'fairly widely' or 'quite a lot' or 'some', there's a tiny, tiny percentage of businesses using it. Our UK website, not aimed at tech savvy, had 0.13% IE6 over the last 2 months compared to 0.32% the year before and when I last looked a significant proportion of that is bots and scrapers pretending to be browsers anyway. Half our traffic comes during the business…

Does your traffic come primarily from the UK / Europe? I imagine the situation is much worse in the US.

Re: IE6 is dead

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Post by vinceguidry »

eli wrote: post #45
kijin wrote: post #40

As others have pointed out, IE6 isn't dead yet. Any person or business that is stubborn enough to use IE6 nowadays is probably also stubborn enough to keep using Windows XP for another year or ten. And I'm afraid a lot of us have been complicit in the unusually long life of this dreadful monster, as well as of its just-as-dreadful offspring, IE8. By "us" I mean everyone who has ever developed a website in the last fe…

> If we really want to kill IE[6-8], we need to do something more drastic, and do so with extreme prejudice. How about we all agree upon a certain date on which we intentionally break our websites and services for IE6 users? Maybe for a blog, but I'm not telling 10%+ of my customers to piss off. If the cost of supporting them outweighs the value of their business then I won't support them any more. But I would never…

These people might be using Microsoft software, but it would be a stretch to call them Microsoft customers. When was the last time they actually coughed up any cash? Besides, this is a bed Microsoft made, so they need to lie in it. The longer people stay with XP / IE 6-8, the worse the Internet gets for everyone. M$ is the only company that can do anything about it, and it's in their best interest to, so they just need to quit dilly-dallying and just do it already.

And is 10%+ of the Windows install base really XP???

Re: IE6 is dead

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Post by eli »

olegkikin wrote: post #23

Just checked the analytics on a non-IT website: IE represents 10.45% Out of that: IE6 .28% IE7 2.03% IE8 19.81% IE9 16.57% IE10 16.15% IE11 45.13%

Everyone needs to do their own math, though. I run a network of news & information sites for business professionals in different industries and the numbers vary a bit, but are almost all much "worse" than your numbers.

On utilitydive.com (covering the utility/energy industry) it's 35% IE and of that 40% is IE8. IE6 and IE7 are much less, but they also don't really work with our latest redesign so it's a bit hard to tell.

Re: IE6 is dead

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Post by tmm »

wil421 wrote: post #37
spydum wrote: post #21

At my employer, they finally pushed a full blown enterprise wide upgrade to IE10 with IE11 just around the corner (August). Unfortunately in parallel, they could not get enough people to submit sites that needed compatibility mode, so to prevent massive help desk problems they decided to push USE COMPATIBILITY MODE FOR ALL SITES. This basically downgraded everyone to IE7 mode permanently. So much for progress...

My Employer does this also, all sites are our intranet switch IE into IE7 compatibility mode. Does matter if the need compatibility mode or not. We recently released a version of the web app I am building and I wish you couldve seen the horror on our faces when we saw the app in IE 7 mode.

Well, unless they actually change it in group policy, this is the default action for IE when it connects to anything on what it considers to be Intranet.

You can override this by setting X-UA-Compatible to IE=edge as a HTTP header on your server. The equivalent meta tag is ignored in this situation.

Or you could ask IT to change group policy, but I have no idea where that setting might live.

Re: IE6 is dead

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Post by TazeTSchnitzel »

jenscow wrote: post #35
ivan_gammel wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We are writing enterprise web application that uses WebGL for displaying complex 3D models and we think that IE11 is damn good. Thus, I've no idea why are you calling it terribly obsolete.

Give it a year.

Yes, then there will be IE12.

Re: IE6 is dead

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Post by roeme »

kijin wrote: post #40

As others have pointed out, IE6 isn't dead yet. Any person or business that is stubborn enough to use IE6 nowadays is probably also stubborn enough to keep using Windows XP for another year or ten. And I'm afraid a lot of us have been complicit in the unusually long life of this dreadful monster, as well as of its just-as-dreadful offspring, IE8. By "us" I mean everyone who has ever developed a website in the last fe…

>I don't know. It does sound rather perverse to refuse service to IE6 while keeping the website fully accessible for Lynx.

But it's not. By keeping your website useable in Lynx, you make it a great deal easier for handicapped people to use your site. And to search engines. And to whatever more use cases there are (low bandwidth,..).

These concerns are just not valid for IE6. At least I can't think of any.

Also, you can always redirect the IE6'es to the same version as for Lynx, so you're not really refusing service...shrug

Re: IE6 is dead

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Post by ivan_gammel »

jenscow wrote: post #35
ivan_gammel wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We are writing enterprise web application that uses WebGL for displaying complex 3D models and we think that IE11 is damn good. Thus, I've no idea why are you calling it terribly obsolete.

Give it a year.

We'll have IE12 by that time.
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