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Re: Roundcube Webmail 1.0.0 released

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> It's slow to fetch my email... Yeah, there can be a couple causes for this. Sometimes it's the skin being used. Some Roundcube skins are quite a bit faster than the default; you might check with your ISP to see if they support additional Roundcube skins. (They are very easy to install, and users can select an RC skin from their settings panel.) > ...and searching for specific emails doesn't work very well. There sh…

If a skin breaks or reduces functionality in an app...

...the dude who made the skin should've made a better job?

Re: Roundcube Webmail 1.0.0 released

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The best part of Gmail was never the interface, it was search, tagging, and spam filtering.

The biggest feature at launch was the idea of "unlimited" storage (I think at the time it was 1GB) This was a huge departure from the existing Yahoo!/Hotmail models which had much more restrictive limits on storage.

That and the idea of one inbox and no folders. The concept of letting your mail flow into one box and not "filing" it was also a big change from the existing mindset.

Re: Roundcube Webmail 1.0.0 released

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But no one "sane" would recommend a cPanel host, don't shovel shit at friends..

I don't get the hate. I use gmail and roundcube (on a cPanel host) on a daily basis. cPanel hosting is really easy to use and maintain. With a good hosting company, what's the issue?

There's nothing to get, the hate is completely irrational. Those who belittle shared hosting, or the idea of cPanel have their head so far up their own tech-infused ass that they don't understand most people, hell even most techies don't want to manage their own web or email server.

Re: Roundcube Webmail 1.0.0 released

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I don't get the hate. I use gmail and roundcube (on a cPanel host) on a daily basis. cPanel hosting is really easy to use and maintain. With a good hosting company, what's the issue?

It's a user interface instead of a semantic interface—you're stuck with clicking around to maintain your site and your hands are tied with your ability to actually change something about it.

Examples of a semantic interface, or changes that a "normal" person would make to their hosting that cPanel doesn't allow would be good to illustrate your point.

Re: Roundcube Webmail 1.0.0 released

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Can you enlighten me with some edge cases one might face while building an email app?

One obvious one that many people fail at initially is sanitizing any HTML-formatted mail. You don't want viewing the mail to result in an XSS attack against the mail-viewing application, stealing your login cookie for example.

Both GMail and FastMail have had this vulnerability in the past. GMail had it when script was hidden inside SVGs. FastMail had it when script was embedded in attachment filenames. I'm sure lots of other webmail systems had/have these issues too.

Re: Roundcube Webmail 1.0.0 released

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If I could find a way to filter spam as well as gmail does I would love to back to self-hosting my email. I just can't imagine a time when we'll get anything close to what gmail can do without their huge resources.

I do the following: * don't accept mail for non-existing recipient adresses * don't accept mail where the sender domain is one of my domains, except when whitelisted manually * don't accept mail from hosts on the NiXSpam list[1] (unlike some others, NixSpam has pretty reasonable policies with automatic delisting after 12 hours) These three rules together work pretty well, I get only a handful false negatives every da…

Your [2] link is awesome :)

Re: Roundcube Webmail 1.0.0 released

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But no one "sane" would recommend a cPanel host, don't shovel shit at friends..

I don't get the hate. I use gmail and roundcube (on a cPanel host) on a daily basis. cPanel hosting is really easy to use and maintain. With a good hosting company, what's the issue?

cPanel has the security reputation of pre-3.0 Wordpress. It's a real-world, actual problem; in a shared hosting environment, cPanel adds a lot of risk for your customers.

Here's a list of CVEs for cPanel from 2010 back: http://www.cvedetails.com/vulnerability-list/vendor_id-1766/...

andalso: http://www.exploit-db.com/search/?action=search&filter_page=...

I dunno why those lists both stop at around 2010. cPanel is still being actively compromised: http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=1267400

There's a fair chance that cPanel is the hole that regularly gives heartburn to some providers, like GoDaddy. For example, http://blog.sucuri.net/2011/09/godaddy-shared-servers-compro...

cPanel is popular, and it solves a lot of problems for a lot of people. Because it's so common, people who don't otherwise know their way around web hosting can feel right at home when using cPanel. I don't have some kind of irrational, hipster-esque or elitist hatred for it; I simply think that I can't in good conscience install it and knowingly put my hosting customers at risk.

Re: Roundcube Webmail 1.0.0 released

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Can someone recommend hosting providers which offer RoundCube?

Gandi does, and you do not need to buy webspace from them. Just registering a domain there will get you 5 free mailboxes and 1000 forwarding addresses. https://www.gandi.net/domain

I'm not on a crusade or something, but they were not for me.

Do better than I did, give them little money and take your time before you expect them to be the right company.

1: Just replied in a different thread, incident is fresh: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7557887

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