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Re: Can you hear me now? No, I don't have that app

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Post by m_mueller » Fri, Apr 04, 2014, 4:26 PM UTC

gcb0 wrote: post #50

m_mueller wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My foreign language skills tend to increase between the second and third coffee, sorry about that..

The language was fine... Just saying I've never heard of the one you say is most promising regarding adoption numbers

Point 1) wasn't about adoption numbers but functionality in terms of clients. TextSecure are the only OSS ones with an easy to use client I know that have as one of their goals to create iOS / Desktop clients. That's why I wrote we're at stage 0) right now, with some hope at reaching 1).

Re: Can you hear me now? No, I don't have that app

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Post by themoonbus » Fri, Apr 04, 2014, 4:54 PM UTC

rurounijones wrote: post #8

themoonbus wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Exactly. And, you can still fallback to text, email, or a phone call...

As long as your friends are not the kind of people who organise their lives on those services. "Oh, you didn't know about the party? I told everyone on the whatsapp group chat (that you are not a part of)". When these walled-garden communication channels become the de facto way of socialising then not being on them is a massive handicap. (As I know from my friends moaning at me for not having whatsapp)

So should you be blaming the software, or your social circle?

Re: Can you hear me now? No, I don't have that app

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Post by userbinator » Sat, Apr 05, 2014, 5:17 AM UTC

pjc50 wrote: post #45

userbinator wrote: post #5

It's odd that, despite there being an open protocol for realtime chat that is over 25 years old, older than HTTP or HTML, I would guess that the majority of the population hasn't heard of or used it. On the other hand, almost everyone has heard of and uses email, which also dates from around the same time period. > A unified communication service would not only allow me to communicate easily on any device it makes se…

Which protocol are you referring to - IRC? talkd? Voice and video are fundamentally different from messaging because they are connection-orientated; I think it's a mistake to conflate the two. SIP is actually pretty good when the firewall punching works. I suspect there are enough cases when it doesn't for that to be a problem. And of course, if it's hard to monetise then it's hard to advertise, hence the proprietary…

IRC.

I see how messaging doesn't need to be connection-oriented, but in many cases it is (especially if you want near-realtime latency, and not "whenever the next poll is".)