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Not being judgmental, as most Americans who are 70+ are on a litany of drugs for various chronic conditions anyway.
I recall reading that most/all men over the age of 40 would basically qualify for testosterone replacement therapy, albeit perhaps only with an accommodating doctor.
His plan is only a plan to live healthily. In that he is like David Murdoch [1], who has the fortunate coincidence of living longer, being very wealthy, and having long had good health practices. But once you get past your 70s and 80s, the odds of living longer start to have much more to do with your genes than your past health practices. 75% of everyone with the best diets and healthiest lifestyles die before reachi…
>A copy of you isn't you. I'm surprised people still believe this. There are no souls. Nothing about the atoms in your brain are special. If I replaced them all right now with "different" atoms (if the universe even does have a unique identity assigned to every particle) you would be the same person.
His plan is only a plan to live healthily. In that he is like David Murdoch [1], who has the fortunate coincidence of living longer, being very wealthy, and having long had good health practices. But once you get past your 70s and 80s, the odds of living longer start to have much more to do with your genes than your past health practices. 75% of everyone with the best diets and healthiest lifestyles die before reachi…
>A copy of you isn't you. I'm surprised people still believe this. There are no souls. Nothing about the atoms in your brain are special. If I replaced them all right now with "different" atoms (if the universe even does have a unique identity assigned to every particle) you would be the same person.
One explanation for who we are is that experience is a binary relation. In order for identity or anything else to be experienced by someone, they have to be operating.
There is an episode in Star Trek where a transporter accident didn't destroy the original copy. Obviously a copy of someone isn't that someone because identity is a transitive relation, and the two copies aren't each other!
So by simple logic, a copy of someone isn't that someone because you can have multiple copies. Of course the real issue is the question of someone's identity in the first place.
Because identity is a TRANSITIVE relation (meaning if A is related to B and B to C then A is related to C). And two copies of the same thing aren't each other.
Actually identity is an example of what's called an EQUIVALENCE RELATION which means it is reflexive (A is related to A), SYMMETRIC (If A related to B then B related to A) and transitive. Those 3 properties are necessary and sufficien for a relation to be an equivalence relation. An equivalence relation partitions a set into subsets called "equivalence classes" where all members are equivalent.
So the big question is, what is the relation here that would form equivalence classes between copies of a person? Perhaps it is that two people are the same if, in some sense, they arose as a natural continuous change from some previous biological thing.
That way we can acknowledge the vast complexity of what it's like to be human and alive, and still make a meaningful definition.
It just so happens that this definition is along the lines of hinduism - I've been listening to some Alan Watts lecture recently.
His plan is only a plan to live healthily. In that he is like David Murdoch [1], who has the fortunate coincidence of living longer, being very wealthy, and having long had good health practices. But once you get past your 70s and 80s, the odds of living longer start to have much more to do with your genes than your past health practices. 75% of everyone with the best diets and healthiest lifestyles die before reachi…
> A copy of you isn't you Actually, it is. The current laws of physics don't have the notion of identity. So swapping two identical particles not only doesn't have any effect, it doesn't even make physical sense . Like the rest of physics, this principle stays valid at the macroscopic scale. Teletransportation is a genuine form of transportation. It doesn't kill you, and the result is not a mere copy. It was traditio…
Identical particles have different identities because they have a different location in space-time. The location in space-time creates the identity.
There's also a problem with the math of your claim. They can't "be the same particle" if you can have two of them. 1 != 2
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> A copy of you isn't you Actually, it is. The current laws of physics don't have the notion of identity. So swapping two identical particles not only doesn't have any effect, it doesn't even make physical sense . Like the rest of physics, this principle stays valid at the macroscopic scale. Teletransportation is a genuine form of transportation. It doesn't kill you, and the result is not a mere copy. It was traditio…
Just because physics doesn't have a notion of identity, doesn't mean there is no such thing. Identical particles have different identities because they have a different location in space-time. The location in space-time creates the identity. There's also a problem with the math of your claim. They can't "be the same particle" if you can have two of them. 1 != 2
How is that not exactly what that means?
I don't want to sound mean but he's still Then, being mean, what I see here is a narcissistic guy who's saying: "I'm so cool and I bet that with exercise I will survive until 130years. Everyone should worship to my phallus idol" To which I would like to reply: lucky you in being fit and strong and cool and rich and yada yada yada. I hope the best for you, but still this will have a ludicrous scientific relevance. And…
I'd like to state this controversial position, in the hope that is read with the open-mindness of the "what you don't say" thread: I believe that many of the problems of our society are due to people afraid of dying: Accumulating money in the delusion of fighting death. The universal fight for happiness is impersonated in one extra year of struggle, often by sacrificing the life of others. Seems to me that despite 20…
Earlier quoted context omitted.
Just because physics doesn't have a notion of identity, doesn't mean there is no such thing. Identical particles have different identities because they have a different location in space-time. The location in space-time creates the identity. There's also a problem with the math of your claim. They can't "be the same particle" if you can have two of them. 1 != 2
> Just because physics doesn't have a notion of identity, doesn't mean there is no such thing. How is that not exactly what that means?