don't tell me a about shortage if the market is manipulated
Engineers Allege Hiring Collusion in Silicon Valley
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#52OK, so you can stop the "no poaching" and you'll have: --> smaller than they should be engineer wages --> higher engineer wages --> even higher engineer wages --> ... --> absurdly high unsustainable engineer wages --> ... --> more outsourcing --> even more outsourcing --> ... --> massive outsourcing --> ... ... ... --> smaller than they should be engineer wages ...I think the "evil masters" of this "no poaching" pact…
Engineers wouldn't price themselves so high that they would be outsourced: that only happens to people who don't have any room left to let their wages fall, either because they already earn too little to sustain themselves or there is a legal price floor (e.g., minimum wage). An engineer making $200k isn't going to starve from taking a 50% pay cut, and they'd certainly rather take that than no job at all.
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#53This is the 99% lead charge that annoys me the most. (especially since many of the people leading it aren't 99%'ers they just think they are) The assumption is that the only places to work are the big companies. Anti-Poaching agreements are rarely about the Money and more about the "I won't steal your trade secrets if you don't steal mine" types of "we can't patent this stuff" stand offs. It is also protection agains…
If you are in a non C-level salaried position, and you don't have a few million in liquid assets, it is exceedingly unlikely you are a 1%er.
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#54Am I the only one that loves the fact that it involves 64K programmers?
As with earlier numbers: sounds like it should be enough for anybody, but I can think of a number of other companies which have been excluded from the suit which should be included. Cisco comes to mind.
I think he's saying he loves that it's 2^6 (K) programmers.
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#55Yeah those poor high-tech workers have a really rough life indeed, it's time someone did something about it!
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#56Yeah those poor high-tech workers have a really rough life indeed, it's time someone did something about it!
Laws and fairness are for everybody.
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#57> It also offers a portrait of Silicon Valley engineers that differs sharply from their current caricature as well-paid villains who are driving up the price of real estate in San Francisco and making the city unbearable for others. What? "unbearable"? That seems a little out of place. Would most NYTimes readers have any idea what he's talking about? From the author's recent articles list: -- In little more than a de…
We could use a bit more self-reflection and a little less shooting the messenger around here. If you only want to read happy happy joy, disruption yeah, cheerleader stories about how awesome the tech industry is, I suggest TechCrunch. Our industry has a pervading attitude of treating anybody who is not "us" as roadkill on the highway to progress. That's going to turn against us a lot harder then these few relatively…
Exactly. The tech-industry is horribly naive. It operates based on the idea that the general public perceives them as those friendly shy nerdy guys from school.
Wake up, guys. People have had tech giants invade their life way too much and they've all seen in The Social Network what kind of person a poster boy like Mark Zuckerberg really is.
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#58Earlier quoted context omitted.
As with earlier numbers: sounds like it should be enough for anybody, but I can think of a number of other companies which have been excluded from the suit which should be included. Cisco comes to mind.
I think he's saying he loves that it's 2^6 (K) programmers.
That sir is not a serious definition of 64k. We all know 64k == 65536 ( 2^16 ).
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#60Earlier quoted context omitted.
Laws and fairness are for everybody.
There's no disputing that. I'm just voicing the sentiment of main street hoping that we techies take it to heart.
Yeah definitely its a 1st-world problem. But in context, there's more money and value being squandered in Silicon Valley due to this crime, than if it occurred in many other areas.