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Re: German freemail sites trick Firefox and Chrome users into removing AdBlock

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As someone that has been involved in online publishing for over 10 years I have a strong opinion about ad blockers. In my opinion using ad blockers is borderline piracy. Refusing the content creator his revenue by blocking his ads is little different than downloading music, books... without rewarding the creator. On top of that most of the quality content this days is on websites that have decent ads. I am not trying…

The problem is that without adblockers the web is basically useless due to too many publishers becoming too greedy and torturing their users with sometimes dozens of layer,banner,popup,popunder and scareware ads on one(!) page.

Do you see how that is in perfect connection with the reason people pirate stuff?

Anti-piracy main reasoning is that if it's too expensive(too many ads in your case) just don't buy it. The 2nd main reason is lack of availability(in ad blocker case - lack of sites with less ads that give you same content).

Re: German freemail sites trick Firefox and Chrome users into removing AdBlock

#53

As someone that has been involved in online publishing for over 10 years I have a strong opinion about ad blockers. In my opinion using ad blockers is borderline piracy. Refusing the content creator his revenue by blocking his ads is little different than downloading music, books... without rewarding the creator. On top of that most of the quality content this days is on websites that have decent ads. I am not trying…

Also people shouldn't be allowed to change the channel on tv when the ad breaks begin or even leave to use the toilet! They should be forced to sit and watch everything or else the ratings of the ads will not match the ones for the show.

My point it: people mostly hated ads since they were invented. Be it by not looking at them on the street, changing channels on tv or installing AdBlock on your computer, they do their best to avoid them.

Re: German freemail sites trick Firefox and Chrome users into removing AdBlock

#55

As someone that has been involved in online publishing for over 10 years I have a strong opinion about ad blockers. In my opinion using ad blockers is borderline piracy. Refusing the content creator his revenue by blocking his ads is little different than downloading music, books... without rewarding the creator. On top of that most of the quality content this days is on websites that have decent ads. I am not trying…

What if users don't block ads but never click on one either?

Re: German freemail sites trick Firefox and Chrome users into removing AdBlock

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post #42

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Can you recommend a paid european mail service?

It's not in the EU (Switzerland), but https://mykolab.com/

Switzerland is in Europe. Are you confusing EU with Europe?

Re: German freemail sites trick Firefox and Chrome users into removing AdBlock

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post #55

As someone that has been involved in online publishing for over 10 years I have a strong opinion about ad blockers. In my opinion using ad blockers is borderline piracy. Refusing the content creator his revenue by blocking his ads is little different than downloading music, books... without rewarding the creator. On top of that most of the quality content this days is on websites that have decent ads. I am not trying…

What if users don't block ads but never click on one either?

That is a publisher and advertiser problem as they did not create an ad relevant and/or engaging enough.

With retargeting ads this days it becomes easier to show relevant and targeted ads.

Actually most HN-ers are leaving huge money on the table right now for not using the highest ROI ad channel - retargeting.

Re: German freemail sites trick Firefox and Chrome users into removing AdBlock

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post #16

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Can you recommend a paid european mail service?

Just buy a domain and a small hosting plan that includes mail. I am using that setup for close to 10 years now and it is fantastic. I use all-inkl (hit me for my affiliate link if you want to sign up so I become rich) which are a high quality yet very affordable german host.

all-inkl has huge incompetencies when it comes to mail. Their servers end up on spam lists every 1-3 weeks. Effect: Your customers do not receive any more emails from you.

In addition if you inbox becomes larger than a specific size (1 GB is think) they will autoarchive your whole inbox to a folder... not nice if you have smart mail mailboxes

Re: German freemail sites trick Firefox and Chrome users into removing AdBlock

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post #53

As someone that has been involved in online publishing for over 10 years I have a strong opinion about ad blockers. In my opinion using ad blockers is borderline piracy. Refusing the content creator his revenue by blocking his ads is little different than downloading music, books... without rewarding the creator. On top of that most of the quality content this days is on websites that have decent ads. I am not trying…

Also people shouldn't be allowed to change the channel on tv when the ad breaks begin or even leave to use the toilet! They should be forced to sit and watch everything or else the ratings of the ads will not match the ones for the show. My point it: people mostly hated ads since they were invented. Be it by not looking at them on the street, changing channels on tv or installing AdBlock on your computer, they do the…

The TV ad example is a false analogy. If the page has ads that you don't want to see you can close it(no one forces you to watch it) or go for the toilet break.

I agree that people hate ads and people also hate paying for things that can get for free(piracy).

You guys are missing my point of ad blockers being borderline piracy and mainly try to justify your reason for using them.

Re: German freemail sites trick Firefox and Chrome users into removing AdBlock

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post #35

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There is a big difference between: 1. Here is a lawful search warrant signed affidavit and approved by a judge _or_ 2. Here you go, the data on kefka. Thanks for asking.

> 2. Here you go, the data on kefka. Thanks for asking. is this really happening? can you give some evidence that google is willy nilly giving private data away like that?

No, he's saying that Google is doing the first point, not this one.
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