Could a device like this use bluetooth instead of wifi / mac address?
Or for that matter could it somehow look at cell signals?
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#52sounds very similar to this http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-23665490 which was shut down.
It might be different since those were in public places, and not in shops.
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#53By the way, I'd love something like this for the gym.
I'd like to check if it's too crowded before I decide to go or not.
I guess for any kind of business with lines or waiting rooms, (banks, ATMS, restaurants) customers might appreciate a way to quickly gauge the crowd level before going.
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#54Earlier quoted context omitted.
"They take privacy incredibly seriously" What does that even mean? They're tracking not only the number of people in a location, but where they go ... then sharing that with their customers. From their own website: Understand your business in the context of others: 1. Who you share customers with. 2. Where else your loyal customers love to go. 3. Where foot traffic in the city is trending. How is that respecting my p…
You're just an anonymous datapoint in their system, and they've actually done a lot to make sure this always stays the case.
That's the NSA's rationale too. Except often times a collection of data points that are supposedly "anonymous" can eventually be correlated to a specific person.
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#55Earlier quoted context omitted.
Have you seen the Off Pocket? https://offpocket.com/ Though in the UK I have unlimited 4G for £20 per month, so I just leave WiFi permanently disabled.
Is Off Pocket any different to putting your phone in airplane mode every time you put it in your pocket? It's certainly more convenient, but also harder on the battery life as the phone continues to search for a signal.
Battery life was talked about on the original Kickstarter campaign: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/offpocket/off-pocket
I never ordered one as I missed the window of opportunity. But it was claimed by the creator and users that battery life was variable depending on the make and model of your phone, and whether you had lots of background apps attempting to do things.
The claim was that in some combinations you get better battery life by using Off Pocket, and with others you get worse.
Phones don't drain greatly when they don't have a signal. A day riding the tube system between meetings in London doesn't significantly affect my battery life, so I've no reason to believe that Off Pocket would've resulted in a different outcome.
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#56Everyone here seems to be complaining about the anonymous tracking, which isn't really an issue for "normals". Its a relatively useless complaint too as that data already exists in the credit card network.
The real issue with this is that most SMBs are unsophisticated when it comes to the technology stack they use. I saw this firsthand in many ways working at Swipely (swipely.com) as we figured out product market fit. While things like 'see where else your customers shop' might seem like an interesting feature from an outsiders perspective, the businesses don't actually care. They often barely have the bandwidth to worry about their own customers.
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#57By the way, I'd love something like this for the gym. I'd like to check if it's too crowded before I decide to go or not. I guess for any kind of business with lines or waiting rooms, (banks, ATMS, restaurants) customers might appreciate a way to quickly gauge the crowd level before going.
No need for such a perverted privacy violation, the shop could just install a door step counter like they are commonly used already. Then you would have the information how many people are currently in the store.
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#59Did I miss something with the video? It plays an interview between pg and Calacanis that's 2 hours long.
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#60Mental note : before your next hold up, remember to turn off your smartphone ...