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Re: Microsoft Office Online

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OneNote is included! Wow you have no idea how happy that makes me as a OneNote user since 2006 or so. It's my favorite part of Office.

Agreed, OneNote is the main app we use to sync home/work desktop with mobile (were all Apple devices) and is dead nuts reliable.

It has just enough features without feeling heavy to suit our needs.

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post #47

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Make it free for home/educational/personal use then, with liberal definitions of those terms, and keep on charging enterprises. Enterprise licensing is where the money is for a product like Office anyway, and those customers actually prefer having to pay for something over getting the same thing for free. Meanwhile, all those people using the free version will be churning out lots of documents in Office file formats,…

If the employer gives each employee a chromebook instead of a desktop, and tell each employee to get Office on their own, then the employer doesn't have to pay license fee for every employee. I imagine this can reduce the operation cost by a lot.

That would violate "for personal use".

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But, according to Microsoft if Microsoft Office is not explicitly installed on the machine then it's "just a brick"! [1]

And when you use it, Microsoft will be able to track what you do, just like Google does! And we all know that those big bad corporations just can't be trusted. Except for Microsoft, of course.

[1] http://news.cnet.com/8301-17852_3-57613803-71/microsofts-lat...

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I can almost use this on my phone...but since I can not paste my highly randomized password, from my password database, into their website. Why not? I don't know, I think paste is disabled by Javascript. Who the hell would think that is a good idea?

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Yeah, right. Office is MS cash cow. If they charged a reasonable amount for monthly use, that would be good. Lets say, 1 dollar per month. 3 dollar for 4 users family pack. That would be great.

In an efficient market, in the long run, the price of a unit of software would approach the marginal cost of a unit of software. I wonder how long it will be until essentially all software is free, and all the services are run more or less at cost (as the economists would put it, they can earn profits, just not economic profits). But in the long run, as they say, we're all dead ;)

That's only true in cases of perfect competition, which mainly obtains for commodities. Products with different features are examples of monopolistic competition, because different products are not automatic substitutes for each other.

Re: Microsoft Office Online

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post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If the employer gives each employee a chromebook instead of a desktop, and tell each employee to get Office on their own, then the employer doesn't have to pay license fee for every employee. I imagine this can reduce the operation cost by a lot.

That would violate "for personal use".

How so? I can carry my laptop to my office and use my laptop instead. When I come home I get paged and my boss wants me to read a document. i wouldn't go back to my office just to open a document, would I? If I work for my dad's deli and I need to help him print a price tag I would be "working" for my dad and using my personal Office would violate the policy - but who would pay for a copy? I am self-employed and I use Office at home for both school, self-employed work and for personal use. Personal use is a very grey area - hence why personal edition has missing features.

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OneNote is awesome. I'd use it more, but I can't figure out a way to encrypt it while still getting sync. If they offered some built-in password protection, so that the contents were safely encrypted on-device and the hosting aspect just sync'd blobs, hey, awesome. They could even implement a differential update mechanism, just encrypt the deltas before uploading. (After careful review, since that might introduce som…

What if you put your notebook file on a Bitlocker'd drive?

It is Bitlocker'd, plus EFS'd (just in case my TPM gives up the keys - it's unclear if the password is mixed in to derive key material or not). And I'm getting a new SSD with "Encrypted Drive" support, so the keys are never in-memory (although again, I don't know if the key is just sitting in an easily-accessible chip on the disk, or if my password combines for key material).

And then EFS on top of that, and each VM has its own encryption as well. So even a full compromise won't hurt the VMs I'm not using at the time.

But it doesn't help since OneNote's online slick-access-from-anywhere, doesn't do crypto AFAIK. So all my transparent crypto protect my local device, but OneLook uploads the notebooks unencrypted to SkyDrive.

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post #19

NSA will have a lot more documents now in their collection to analyze.

I feel like it is very unlikely that any of the documents saved on this service will ever be of interest to the NSA so I would guess this would just add more noise

The Russian people thought similarly in the 1920s about their letters and conversations - until in the dark of the night family members were dragged from their beds and deported to the Siberian tundras to die.
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