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Re: Where are the hacker news on Hacker news?

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Post by icebraining »

konka wrote: post #25
NxAlessandro wrote: post #15

I've been lurking on HN now for more than 2years, and the change OP is referring about is totally true... I don't care about boring news coming from TC/Mashable/... Now HN is only about: -Facebook -blogging shit -why no women in IT ? bouhouhou we are all macho jerk.. common grow a pair white knights, smells like virgins over here. -"How Xcompany raised x$$, and why you should definitively not listen to these advices.…

I agree - real complaint being made is that this feed has become more and more focused on bullshit business strategy and entrepreneurial tips. This site is less about technology and more about how to make money from technology. The various corporate movements of big tech companies is not 'Hacker subculture' and never was.

No, it's not becoming more and more. It always has, as I've shown in my post linking back to the Wayback Archive. You're all wearing rose-colored glasses.

Re: Where are the hacker news on Hacker news?

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Post by NAFV_P »

Systemic33 wrote: post #18

I think there is some merit to this observation. The hacker definition have been stretched more and more, while the posts here still fall within the sites definition of news, there seems to have been a shift to a higher focus on hacking your startup X's round A|B|C|... and less about hacking the technology. tl;dr: I think there have been a shift from hacking the technology to hacking the finance.

> I think there have been a shift from hacking the technology to hacking the finance.

I'd rather have finance hacking (I was thinking bitcoin) than yet another article on the NSA.

Re: Where are the hacker news on Hacker news?

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Post by DrJokepu »

Peroni wrote: post #33
DrJokepu wrote: post #9

I've been reading this site for over four years now and it was never good, maybe with the exception of the odd Erlang day.

>I've been reading this site for over four years now and it was never good... Yet it was good enough to keep you coming back for four years?

Basically.

Re: Where are the hacker news on Hacker news?

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Post by icebraining »

bromagosa wrote: post #49
alisnic wrote: post #11

Since the content is promoted by the users, Hacker News is what the majority of its readers wants it to be. People that are interested in pure hacking stuff already found better sources, like good subreddits.

Actually, I never understood how promotion works here. As an example, I submitted a website about a project of our own a couple months ago and got 4 points. Never made it past the "new" page. A month later, someone else submitted exactly the same project and got 70 votes, getting to the front page and resulting in about 30.000 visits to our site. Same content, different user. So is this site about interesting content…

Same content, different user.

And different day, different time, different selection of users looking at /new.

I'm not saying there isn't favoritism (and I don't think that's necessarily bad), but there's also plenty of randomness involved.

Re: Where are the hacker news on Hacker news?

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Post by davidw »

atmosx wrote: post #47

It took more than a month to realize that HN community is a small branch of a seed accelerator by Paul Graham. As such, expecting anything more than what you're getting is naive . Of course everybody here is interested on startups and their stories (failures and successes). That said, ones needs to define what the word hacker stands for. Until 5 years ago, I'd agree that a hacker is a computer geek with strong ties t…

> world politics.

That's not supposed to be here. Those topics tend to end up in pretty lame discussions.

Re: Where are the hacker news on Hacker news?

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Post by bromagosa »

icebraining wrote: post #55
bromagosa wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Actually, I never understood how promotion works here. As an example, I submitted a website about a project of our own a couple months ago and got 4 points. Never made it past the "new" page. A month later, someone else submitted exactly the same project and got 70 votes, getting to the front page and resulting in about 30.000 visits to our site. Same content, different user. So is this site about interesting content…

Same content, different user. And different day, different time, different selection of users looking at /new. I'm not saying there isn't favoritism (and I don't think that's necessarily bad), but there's also plenty of randomness involved.

Well indeed, but the exact same URL, only submitted one month later, should at least have reverted some karma on the user who submitted the project originally. Especially if the project was of his own creation...

Re: Where are the hacker news on Hacker news?

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Post by 4ad »

koide wrote: post #35
DrJokepu wrote: post #9

I've been reading this site for over four years now and it was never good, maybe with the exception of the odd Erlang day.

This site has never been good in the four years you have been reading it... Yet you are still here, reading and commenting... Why?

I don't know. I'm in the same position. I don't care about 99% of threads, I don't care about startups or other businesses of any kind, and I believe this site suffers from a particular brand of group think I don't associate with.

When there's any technical discussion that interest me, I believe 95% of participants don't have any idea what they are talking about, and 5% sort of know better but are wrong.

Yet I still come. I don't know why, it's like an obsession. I can't explain it.

Maybe for the occasional interesting link that appears every couple of days and I wouldn't have found it otherwise.

Nah, it's not that.

Re: Where are the hacker news on Hacker news?

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Post by weavie »

bromagosa wrote: post #49
alisnic wrote: post #11

Since the content is promoted by the users, Hacker News is what the majority of its readers wants it to be. People that are interested in pure hacking stuff already found better sources, like good subreddits.

Actually, I never understood how promotion works here. As an example, I submitted a website about a project of our own a couple months ago and got 4 points. Never made it past the "new" page. A month later, someone else submitted exactly the same project and got 70 votes, getting to the front page and resulting in about 30.000 visits to our site. Same content, different user. So is this site about interesting content…

When you submit is also critical.

You get about an hour on the first page of the new page. There need to be enough faces that are interested in your topic reading in that hour.

Re: Where are the hacker news on Hacker news?

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Post by mattmanser »

MattBearman wrote: post #39

I completely disagree with this, I joined HN nearly 4 years ago, and even back then it was a mix of security, programming, start up, and general tech news. The main change I've noticed in the last year or so is the rise of altcoin and NSA news - but having said that, when I joined there was a lot of TSA articles. I think the OP is making the classic mistake of only remembering the good bits - "Summers were always hot…

I've been a fair while now and I think it goes through phases and not only that the very nature of the site changes depending on the timezone you access it in, so if your browsing habit changes, HN changes too. Sometimes HN gets political, sometimes it gets programming heavy, sometimes startup heavy.

HN at the weekend, for example, is much more like r/programming, the quality of comments is much more mixed, you still get some great discussions, but there's a lot more commentators who don't really seem to get programming or startups or business, there seems to be a lot more clueless people. And the weekend is when all those god-awful self-improvement articles get voted up.

The thing I do miss is the Show HN: posts of new startups, and they definitely have gone as Ask posts seem to have been heavily penalized so they drop like stones.

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