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Re: Default File Manager with Unity8 in future desktops

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Post by taeric » Sun, Feb 02, 2014, 2:05 AM UTC

jfoster wrote: post #39

Canonical have an interesting challenge. The people who are most aware of their product are not their target market, and seem to actively dislike the direction their product is headed in. Worse, those people seem to be under the impression that they are the users that Canonical are targeting. In my opinion, this phenomena might sufficiently explain why "desktop Linux" never went mainstream. No previous "desktop Linux…

Meh. I think you are seeing more in the vocal minority than anything else. For myself, ubuntu has been fine and remains the distribution of choice.

I will confess I have considered toying with arch. I do build quite a few things from source, already. Still, I have found very little to fault ubuntu for. (And, really, I just want a high res laptop. Which I will quickly put ubuntu on.)

Re: Default File Manager with Unity8 in future desktops

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Post by jfoster » Sun, Feb 02, 2014, 3:22 AM UTC

Aardwolf wrote: post #44

jfoster wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ubuntu have made it really clear that they want to be a competitor to Windows and be very different from typical Linux operating systems. If you're using Ubuntu and expected it to be like Debian, you made the wrong choice of operating system. In my opinion, Ubuntu and Debian are both great, but they are targeting massively different types of users.

A competitor to Windows? I'd say even Windows 98 has a better UI than what Ubuntu has become: at least Windows 98 has a taskbar that can show multiple instances of the same program. (And fortunately, so does KDE still, for now, for long I hope)

Whether they're succeeding or failing isn't really the point. The point is that if you're in the IT industry, the Ubuntu UI isn't even trying to cater for you. It is Canonical's expectation that you will prefer some other operating system rather than Ubuntu.

Re: Default File Manager with Unity8 in future desktops

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Post by hdevalence » Sun, Feb 02, 2014, 4:00 AM UTC

akerl_ wrote: post #14

hdevalence wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes. See my earlier comment here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7083763

Are we really going to fault Canonical for developing new open source projects, or for those projects not being adopted outside of Ubuntu? I don't have a need for another file manager any more than I needed another init system, but if this was being done by anybody besides Canonical, the comments would say ~"So stoked to see a new option disrupting the file manager space". They're betting they can provide a better UX…

If Canonical wants to develop a new file manager, power to them! I, too, am looking forward to seeing what they do better.

My comment was specifically in regards to the idea of 'what's wrong with Canonical reinventing everything', e.g., discarding Wayland for Mir. Sorry if that was unclear.

Re: Default File Manager with Unity8 in future desktops

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Post by dewyatt » Sun, Feb 02, 2014, 8:16 PM UTC

zeis wrote: post #45

dewyatt wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I spent a good chunk of time restoring type-ahead find to Nautilus, which is now available in trusty-proposed ( https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/1164... ). Now I read this. Not very happy.

At least Ubuntu 14.04 will have type-ahead find. Thank you for all your work.

I suppose that's true. Thanks!