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Magento is dead – Merchants want a suite of marketing tools, not refactored code

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Re: Magento is dead – Merchants want a suite of marketing tools, not refactored code

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Post by benmarks »

at-fates-hands wrote: post #45
debacle wrote: post #29

Magento has been poor software since Varien started trying to monetize. It has always been slower than necessary, a huge resource hog, and relatively complex to configure. The real problem is that there is nothing better out there. Magento is the Drupal of the eCommerce world - relatively prominent, but almost universally reviled by developers and not all that easy to use for users. It's the worst of many worlds. It'…

>>>Magento is the Drupal of the eCommerce world - relatively prominent, but almost universally reviled by developers and not all that easy to use for users. It's the worst of many worlds. This a thousand times. I've used both and as a developer it was incredibly painful to customize either for any specific feature or function. The first time I upgraded Magento, it completely broke the client's site. A nice Sunday aft…

Let me know how bespoke commerce apps work out for you financially.

Re: Magento is dead – Merchants want a suite of marketing tools, not refactored code

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Post by adnam »

rch wrote: post #35
adnam wrote: post #18

My main problem with Magento was it's lack of an API to integrate with 3rd-party systems. Someone implementing a competitor should start with a decent API, and build the interface on top of that. If I had time and money, I would do this myself. Also the EAV database was horrible to deal with.

Is it going to use a similar scheme after the rewrite?

It looks like EAV is staying https://github.com/magento/magento2/search?q=EAV

Re: Magento is dead – Merchants want a suite of marketing tools, not refactored code

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Post by lsaferite »

al2o3cr wrote: post #31
lsaferite wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I 100% agree with this. I honestly think Magento should basically drop almost every core 'feature' and just become a rock-solid platform to build upon.

I'm not sure the developer ecosystem that Magento currently has would be responsive to that - I only worked with it a little, but it seemed like 75%+ of the "solutions" to issues people ran into were provided by other devs saying "well, if you pay $$$ for my FooBarBaz plugin that problem will go away".

I'm not sure what your point was. You described exactly what I was saying should happen. The core is just a platform to build upon and all the features you want are simply modules you add to the core. Now, if the modules you want are free or not is another story.

Re: Magento is dead – Merchants want a suite of marketing tools, not refactored code

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Post by weaksauce »

aeno wrote: post #48
weaksauce wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Absolutely the worst maze of spaghetti files. To get anything done on one page you had to edit a few different deeply nested partial files. I hated working on it.

I assume you have never worked with xtCommerce... My first experience with eCommerce applications was xtC 3 and that thing really got me headaches...

At the time it was supposed to be the best eCommerce solution out there. Tried it and it was painfully slow to both develop for, to administer, and for the customer to use.

Re: Magento is dead – Merchants want a suite of marketing tools, not refactored code

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Post by conradfr »

adnam wrote: post #52
rch wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is it going to use a similar scheme after the rewrite?

It looks like EAV is staying https://github.com/magento/magento2/search?q=EAV

The EAV problem has been mitigated with the indexes feature some years ago though.
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