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Introducing our smart contact lens project (for diabetics)

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Re: Introducing our smart contact lens project (for diabetics)

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Would immediately — and significantly — improve my life. Crossing my fingers very hard. Want this to be reality.

What would this do for you that a current CGM wouldn't?

I've experimented with multiple CGMs and have been plagued with severe accuracy issues. I know this isn't the case for all people, but I found myself constantly recalibrating the CGM only to be given readings that were — no joke — 100% different than the "normal" meter's. I'm talking CGMs giving "30" or "300" when my trusted tester claimed "150."

I was careful w/ calibrations, tried for months, spoke w/ people at the company, etc etc...it just wasn't worth the effort for me. Maybe they're better now, haven't tried in about 3 years.

That was the final straw for me, but the effort around these CGMs is also not to be understated. Calibrations, extra items to lug around attached to your body, extra pieces that can break / not work, etc etc. Anything that helps with this is huge.

When I think of the big picture I realize that Type I Diabetes is nothing compared to the health issues many people deal with, and I consider myself _extremely_ lucky. That being said, it's a daily battle that you never, ever get a break from. Personally, the CGMs didn't make the battle (or my results) much better.

Who knows if this technology would be any better, but I can cross my fingers. I would gladly pay almost all spare money I have for a CGM guaranteed to be both accurate (keep me healthy) and reliable/simple (keep me sane).

Re: Introducing our smart contact lens project (for diabetics)

#52
Type 1 also, and I fully admit that part of what prevents me from using pump therapy is the CGM technology and how invasive and frustrating it is. The lens project gives me hope, but as others in the thread have mentioned - I've gotten my hopes up on several occasions about potential technologies and agree that it seems like a lot of it comes down to profit. Full disclosure, I'm the COO of a tech company and I love data - so a constant frustration is lack of consistent data that can be manipulated in usable ways. (Also mentioned by others in the thread.)

Re: Introducing our smart contact lens project (for diabetics)

#53
This seems like a prototype of what Google Glass will evolve into. The medical device will offer a first generation of solutions to several major problems for augmented reality contact lenses: fitting "an antenna for wireless data communications, a chip to process data, and tiny battery onto a tiny, thin, curved surface..."[1]

Then, a later version will need to solve the problem of projecting crisp images from the contact lens onto the user's retina. Google's experience with Glass seems like it could inform that effort. Perhaps we'll see this product on the market with significant usage within 10 years.

Augmented reality contact lenses have other implications. For example: what does it mean for privacy and advertising to not being able to shut one's eyes?

1. http://www.technologyreview.com/view/517476/google-glass-tod...

Re: Introducing our smart contact lens project (for diabetics)

#54
One major concern I would have is that, in diabetic patients their eyes experience more dryness than non-diabetic patients. This might lead to more scratches on the cornea and prone to further infections and ulcers. As diabetics care 101, diabetics patients have mucher high risk of systematic infections. And this is all way before any diabetic retinopathy develops in those patients. So why Google[x] thinks it's a good idea to have diabetics patients wear contact lens?

Re: Introducing our smart contact lens project (for diabetics)

#56
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All my praise to these Google engineers and scientists. Another completely crazy idea that will really help millions of people every day. Thanks Google! We have discovered a lot of Google X technologies in the last months. It seems that Google X is really working. We may have to stop having fun of Google+.

This year I've challenged myself to use all of google's services and see if they actually improve my life.

Google+, honestly, is awesome. The auto-awesome feature is the coolest thing ever.

Re: Introducing our smart contact lens project (for diabetics)

#57

Type I diabetic here. Assuming current tech stays where it is (not saying it will), this could easily tack 10 years on to my lifespan. For many who watch their diabetes less closely (something I cannot fault anyone for), this could add 20-30 years. For anyone who does not know, type I diabetes is not something you can just follow a doctor's direction on and be ok. Even if you follow your doctor perfectly, there can s…

>type I diabetics with the best control are actually more likely to die from severe low blood sugars.

I'm very much in this crowd. Type 1, AIC of 6.3, LDL cholesterol around 100, BP of 110/72-75. This is with completely manual testing and subcutaneous insulin injections.

The problem of keeping your blood sugar towards an A1C of 6 is you have insulin reactions. Quite often, as you're being rather aggressive in keeping on top of your blood sugar. Worse, is I don't show or feel any real physiological symptoms until I'm at 60 mg/dL or below, which is getting fairly dangerous. I can be as low as 25-30 mg/dL and still be conscious and functioning. My tipoff is realizing that I either feel tired or that I can't think straight. It's hard to realize you're not thinking straight when you can't think straight, and have the cognizance to then test and get some carbs in you.

I've had a few close calls. One where I was driving a supercar north on Route 24 in Boston rush-hour traffic. I subconsciously took an exit and drove 5 miles into a suburb, and managed to not hit anything and the police officer told me I mostly obeyed traffic laws, aside from weaving about (but was completely incoherent) -- I was at 21 mg/dL when the EMTs tested me.

I once didn't compensate for alcohol, passed out on my couch, and when I finally came to in a pool of my own sweat, it took me 3 hours to traverse 30 feet to the kitchen to attempt to drink (and wear at least half) of a half-gallon of orange juice. When I finally tested 30 minutes after consuming an entire carton of OJ, I was barely in the 40s -- I have no idea how low I was, and I was lucky I ever regained consciousness.

Re: Introducing our smart contact lens project (for diabetics)

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Type I diabetic here. Assuming current tech stays where it is (not saying it will), this could easily tack 10 years on to my lifespan. For many who watch their diabetes less closely (something I cannot fault anyone for), this could add 20-30 years. For anyone who does not know, type I diabetes is not something you can just follow a doctor's direction on and be ok. Even if you follow your doctor perfectly, there can s…

Sympathize with you!

How would reduced accuracy really help you? I'm imagining that it could be worse since it could introduce anxiety...

Re: Introducing our smart contact lens project (for diabetics)

#59
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

If pro athletes are where the demand lies, I am fine with that. Unfortunately, most education around diabetes has conflated type I with type II, which has caused and overemphasis on high blood sugar control, rather than low blood sugar management. Pro athletes might have the same problem as type I diabetics, which could lead to a converging need.

Getting sensors out on a non medical market (first?) might also be more feasible enabling interested people to "self medicate"

Impossible. Anything with "blood glucose" on the labelling or even a hint of it will need FDA approval.

Re: Introducing our smart contact lens project (for diabetics)

#60
To take this to a purely business/tech place - this is an interesting market for prototyping contact-lense electronics; maybe in 10 or 20 years the new Glass will just be a contact, but for now this looks like one of the few applications where a sensor and two LEDs (high and low) can provide a lot of user value.
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