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Use Sass. Thank me later.
Or LESS! I personally prefer that over Sass.
Or Stylus.
PSD to HTML is Dead
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Re: PSD to HTML is Dead
#52PSD to iOS as well. I just wish companies would stop wasting resources on photoshop goons and let the engineers who work with the platform & SDK design.
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#53It drives me totally batty to work on projects in which the designer assumes that their only responsibility is to provide a PSD file, which the developers will then turn into HTML and CSS. I want to work not just with designers, but with Web designers, who intimately understand the workings of HTML, CSS, some JavaScript, and the implications for different browser sizes and versions. Web designers speak HTML/CSS nativ…
The analogy I use is a web designer who doesn't know HTML and CSS is like a fashion designer who can't sew.
does not know anything about needles and threads at all, yes :)
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#54What is the best HTML page design tool? I.e., designing CSS and HTML with minimum coding?
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Just to belabor your well made point, here is an example of a final PSD I received from a 'professional agency': (from psdgrade.com) https://cloudup.com/c5RmHN8t1QZ https://cloudup.com/cmpmBEYg93c Thats 27 different font sizes for ONE PAGE of a site. I bet most of this was done through scaling layers to 'fit' into spaces. There were also 42 layers named some verson of -n.
Would you normally expect a psd to contain exactly specified type sizes? I don't use psd comps myself, but I'd treat them as more sketches and guidelines as to actual style and placement, rather than some sort of specification document, because it's a different medium and text handling in ps is pretty basic - it's really not suited to extensive text layout.
Yes, since there is an implicit agreement beforehand that the PSD should be converted to HTML/CSS.
For example, if I missed a border on an element or margin spacing between text areas this would be something I would be expected to fix. The designer would most likely point this out. Many designers I've worked with get very upset if you change anything in this regard without some sort of discussion.
The point you bring up about text handling is true as well, which is another reason that PS is not a great way to design for the web. AI might be a little better, but not by much.
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#56It drives me totally batty to work on projects in which the designer assumes that their only responsibility is to provide a PSD file, which the developers will then turn into HTML and CSS. I want to work not just with designers, but with Web designers, who intimately understand the workings of HTML, CSS, some JavaScript, and the implications for different browser sizes and versions. Web designers speak HTML/CSS nativ…
Great point. Does anybody know the historical origin of the notion that there are "designers" who can be ignorant about their medium? When I talk to, say, friends who paint, it's a very specific activity for them. They know a lot about actual paints, because they do the painting. Pre-web, I knew people who were print designers, or packaging designers, or logo designers. They too knew the details of their medium intim…
Design as an profession is older than the web - it's older than programming. The industry as a whole is intimidated by modern technology, and appeals to non-technical people.
As a result, many of the people coming out of professional design schools, trained in the esthetics of flat, non-interactive design see themselves as 'above' all that 'computer stuff'. This, combined with intimidation, and a massive demand for good design, keeps them from expanding their skillset.
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#57It drives me totally batty to work on projects in which the designer assumes that their only responsibility is to provide a PSD file, which the developers will then turn into HTML and CSS. I want to work not just with designers, but with Web designers, who intimately understand the workings of HTML, CSS, some JavaScript, and the implications for different browser sizes and versions. Web designers speak HTML/CSS nativ…
In house developer's time certainly should not be spent converting a PSD file in to a full HTML/CSS website. If the designer can't build an HTML/CSS site its likely that massive chunks of usability knowledge is missing as well. The thing that hit me about abandoning PSD mockups (coming from a 15 year Photoshop user) is not responsive design but high DPI displays. A lot of big companies still have terrible upscaled ra…
This is one of the nice things about the occasional comp delivered in AI. Its so much easier to translate assets to the web that it confounds me why AI wasn't the standard from the beginning.
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#58What is the best HTML page design tool? I.e., designing CSS and HTML with minimum coding?
http://macaw.co looks promising.
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#59And thank goodness. If anybody knows where the grave is, I'd like to go piss on it. As somebody who long ago did print design, I totally get why designers would want pixel-perfect control. It is awesome, but you get that in print because you are physically manufacturing an object and sending it to people. The web was device independent from the get-go. It wasn't your paper anymore; it was their screens. There were a…
I wish I could work with people with your mindset. Have you considered writing on the subject? There are so many people that could benefit from your experience.
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Is there a known method for documenting an interaction in a design mockup?
Using HTML and JS works great and provides exactly the same interaction you'd see on the final product. I think trying to do anything else (unless you're extremely good at video processing) is insane.
I hear Framer(http://www.framerjs.com/) is pretty sweet.