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The Mac Pro Review

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Re: The Mac Pro Review

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In general, the MacPro loses out in single-thread performance only, since Xeons are typically one architecture behind. When the Haswell based Xeons come out, Apple will refresh the Mac Pro line, and you'll get parity single-thread performance.

What are the odds the Haswell Xeons will use the same socket as the current Xeons?

Zero since Haswell-EP uses DDR4.

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Apple needs to fix Mavericks before I ever buy anything from them. They have so much cash, and so many bugs in Mavericks?

iOS is insecure, Mavericks buggy as hell, iCloud can't keep the lights on. One has to wonder what all their engineers are actually working on.

I always wonder this as I'm using Xcode, too.

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A 1 year warranty is such a joke for this much money. I think this and the new mbp where should anything break you need a full replacement basically, need to have some serious warranty coverage changes. 3 years minimum in my mind. Just another way to nickle and dime you on something like an almost required extended warranty. Apple, your stuff is mostly nice. Fix your product warranty and maybe I'll open my wallet.

Isn't it worth it to purchase the Applecare warranty for $250 which extends the warranty period to 3 years? When you're spending $3k on a computer, I don't see how $250 will really affect the bottom line...

When the customer is spending north of $3k on a computer, why not toss in the warranty for free?

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Wow. For me, the big takeaway from this review are the benchmarks showing the iMac and MBPs beating out the Mac Pro. That shows that this machine is really for niche markets like professional video editing. Makes you wonder why Apple even bothers.

I think that is exactly the kind of niche they are looking to capitalize on. Think about the reasons to buy a powerful workstation computer. Games? You are probably going to build your own custom machine and put Windows on it. Server? Call up Dell and get a rack, or cobble some basement stuff together and throw Linux on it. The other case for needing a powerful workstation today is professional work like video editing, rendering, music production, and Apple already does will in that market. It's clearly one of their lowest priorities, as can be seen by the fact that they updated every other product line multiple times before they came back around to the Mac Pro, but at least they seem to understand the market. If they were marketing this as a gaming machine or a server platform, then they would be making a mistake.

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Wow. For me, the big takeaway from this review are the benchmarks showing the iMac and MBPs beating out the Mac Pro. That shows that this machine is really for niche markets like professional video editing. Makes you wonder why Apple even bothers.

In general, the MacPro loses out in single-thread performance only, since Xeons are typically one architecture behind. When the Haswell based Xeons come out, Apple will refresh the Mac Pro line, and you'll get parity single-thread performance.

Except that the consumer lines will have moved on by then.

Re: The Mac Pro Review

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post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Isn't it worth it to purchase the Applecare warranty for $250 which extends the warranty period to 3 years? When you're spending $3k on a computer, I don't see how $250 will really affect the bottom line...

When the customer is spending north of $3k on a computer, why not toss in the warranty for free?

When you see the price of the dual GPUs, the ECC RAM, PCIe SSD, and the small design, you will see why they didn't toss in the warranty for free. You do get 1 year free warranty though and that's something. It's only $249 for the extra two years which is worth it in my opinion.

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The one strange assumption that most Mac Pro reviews start with is a baseline of two compute cards -- that the Mac Pro is competitive when compared with other machines with two high-end compute cards.

But I don't want two high-end compute cards, and I suspect that many who are trying to convince themselves that they'll benefit from it will gain no value from it.

For many, many workloads, modern compute still represents an iffy proposition (at the price levels being talked about, the Xeon Phi would almost certainly represent a better proposition). With unified memory things might get more workable, but as is it remains a relatively fringe benefit, and it seems odd that the entire value proposition of the machine relies upon it.

Re: The Mac Pro Review

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The one strange assumption that most Mac Pro reviews start with is a baseline of two compute cards -- that the Mac Pro is competitive when compared with other machines with two high-end compute cards. But I don't want two high-end compute cards, and I suspect that many who are trying to convince themselves that they'll benefit from it will gain no value from it. For many, many workloads, modern compute still represen…

so you think 2 compute cards is bad. but what about the mac pro approach 2 gfx cards? good or bad? not sure what position you're taking and curious.

Re: The Mac Pro Review

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Apple needs to fix Mavericks before I ever buy anything from them. They have so much cash, and so many bugs in Mavericks?

What bugs have you found? Have you reported them to Apple?

I haven't found any since the 10.9.1 update. They fixed the quicklook slowness bug which was my only complaint. Mavericks is one of the most polished OS X release I have used, behind Snow Leopard.

Re: The Mac Pro Review

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AnandTech is often the only place that measures and reports anything about the screens of computers, tablets, and phones aside from how many pixels they have (color space, color accuracy, etc.). For this alone they are gold.

I like Anandtech but they have come into criticism recently, from some of their long-time readers, for fawning over Apple products.

I always attributed this to the anti-Apple-ism of the "enthusiast" crowd that like their machines big, over clocked, and running hot.

Anandtech fawns over a lot of products, but I suspect perhaps this is due to them reviewing products they are interested in, and not wasting time on stuff they aren't. I'd start to worry if people can't reproduce their lab numbers but at the moment, they're considered the most detailed and accurate of the lot.

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