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Re: SAP open sources UI development toolkit "SAPUI5"

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Post by X4 »

dschiptsov wrote: post #48
X4 wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Usually I wouldn't agree with this kind of comments, but this is the exception. We shouldn't forget that there is a multi-million dollar company behind this and it's clearly not just open-sourced for beneficiary reasons. Whatever the intent is, the result "look" meager. Maybe a focus on the novelty of their framework instead of the richness in UI-Controls could remedy that effect. It's either that, or hate, or both t…

Multi-billion company which got caught in all deceptive and misleading marketing techniques imaginable, and which maintain Herbalife-like Ponzi scheme for incompetent c"partners" and inflated "certified specialists". The inferior quality of its ERP software is least problem.)

I hope I don't ask for too much, but would you be so kind and please give all us the chance to understand what you mean? I have not the references that back this up, could you add these?

(I am not biased. But I know two people working at SAP (at ^high positions), who I "think" are nice people.)

Re: SAP open sources UI development toolkit "SAPUI5"

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Post by qznc »

Argorak wrote: post #27
bsaul wrote: post #14

SAP Hana is actually a pretty interesting technology for developing data analysis website. It's a DB integrated with a web server and it automatically builds web services that let you query the data. It also provides a html/js framework to easily display and drill down (i think SAPUI5 is tied to that framework, or even is that framework). They even got an amazon AMI to start developping quickly without paying the lic…

SAP is a strangely technology-driven company on the inside. They just solve a horrible problem: implementing everyones business process as they find them at the client, instead of the other way around, with legacy support for ages. (disclaimer: I worked for SAP as an intern, a few years ago)

SAP (or Salesforce or whatever) comes in. Client wants new tech, but keep the business process the same. Lots of wasted money, tears, and anger. Client adapts business process.

The problem is that most enterprise do not reach the last step.

Re: SAP open sources UI development toolkit "SAPUI5"

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Post by bdg »

mkname wrote: post #32
bdg wrote: post #16

Am I the only one this isn't working for? I see comments in here describing all sorts of things but the demo and doc pages only give me JS errors: > Uncaught TypeError: Cannot set property 'OS' of null sap-ui-core.js:152 > Uncaught TypeError: Cannot call method 'getUriParameters' of undefined openui5.hana.ondemand.com/:35 I just see a blank page.

Same here. After setting the user agent to IE 8 the page renders fine. (I guess it can't handle FreeBSD)

I'm also a user of FreeBSD.

I've created a pull request to address the issue.

https://github.com/Incognito/openui5/commit/09a1b50bf73bc6bd...

Re: SAP open sources UI development toolkit "SAPUI5"

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Post by dschiptsov »

X4 wrote: post #51
dschiptsov wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Multi-billion company which got caught in all deceptive and misleading marketing techniques imaginable, and which maintain Herbalife-like Ponzi scheme for incompetent c"partners" and inflated "certified specialists". The inferior quality of its ERP software is least problem.)

I hope I don't ask for too much, but would you be so kind and please give all us the chance to understand what you mean? I have not the references that back this up, could you add these? (I am not biased. But I know two people working at SAP (at ^high positions), who I "think" are nice people.)

There is absolutely no reason for sarcasm.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5158953

Re: SAP open sources UI development toolkit "SAPUI5"

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Post by smtddr »

bobx11 wrote: post #29

Having worked with SAP via ABAP and Java back in the day (and hating it) I can still feel the soul of SAP through these web apps. They still feel incredibly slow and bloated for what they do. Their market dominance is driven by the FUD of other technologies unfortunately, so they need to create their own front-end javascript framework to keep the mystique going about how computer systems are complicated without SAP.…

I dunno where the SAP hate comes from. In my days of AT&T, SAP was the best thing going on. It was the one thing that actually worked reliably. I loved using ABAP and SAPjCO[1] to do all kinds of cool things. I thought the design of SAP was amazing for the complexities it had to deal with. Of course, our HRP1001 table had over 8 million rows. Someone probably had to buy some very expensive hardware to keep SAP running fast.

1. http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/6f/1bd5c6a85b11...

P.S., I wish other programming languages would consider implementing a table variable like ABAP has; allowing me to run SQL against it. http://sap-core.com/articles/basis/abap/abap-variables/

Re: SAP open sources UI development toolkit "SAPUI5"

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Post by jedmeyers »

droopyEyelids wrote: post #33
bobx11 wrote: post #29

Having worked with SAP via ABAP and Java back in the day (and hating it) I can still feel the soul of SAP through these web apps. They still feel incredibly slow and bloated for what they do. Their market dominance is driven by the FUD of other technologies unfortunately, so they need to create their own front-end javascript framework to keep the mystique going about how computer systems are complicated without SAP.…

It will be called SalesForce then.

As if SalesForce is any better.
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