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Re: An IPv6-only VPS that costs less

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Post by Spooky23 »

mz23in wrote: post #50
quasque wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This was a while ago, but Gandi disabled my account - with no warnings - for running a Tor node on one of my VPSes. I then had to send a copy of my passport to eventually get it reenabled. The frustrating thing was that they were also my domain registrar, so during that time I lost all access to my domains as well. I transferred my domains away after that and decided it wasn't wise to mix services together due to thi…

Maybe not for running a Tor node, but Gandi may have received complaints about traffic on this node ? Gandi allows any service to be run on its platform, abuse is not allowed as it isn't on other provider. Thus, they must do the necessary legal operations according to the law, policies and their contract.

Not quite. Gandi has a morals clause in their ToS.

From the Gandi blog: (http://www.gandibar.net/post/2007/01/11/Gandi-fights-back-ag...)

  Domains registered with Gandi must be used in accordance with the rights of third parties (copyrights, intellectual property rights, personality rights, etc.), and current applicable laws and regulations. 

  For example, Gandi does not tolerate activity that is morally objectionable or that poses a threat to public order, that spreads Computer Contaminants (Viruses, Trojans, etc.), and/or that engages in fraudulent activity such as Identity Theft.
Some of these things are fairly broad and vague. There's the whole grey area of speech that may or may not violate the rights of a third party. Then you have the whole "public order" thing. Plus, you're potentially dealing with French legal standards, which may be very different than the US standards that I'm used to.

Re: An IPv6-only VPS that costs less

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Post by mgbmtl »

louwrentius wrote: post #2

My opinion: IPv6 is used by nobody, nobody cares about IPv6 except for us tech nerds and in five years it will still be nowhere. But still, nice if you want to try it out and test with it.

I have an IPv6 ISP in Canada (Teksavvy), and quite happy with it (except for the lack of reverse-DNS). I'm too cheap to pay for a static IPv4 netblock at home, but IPv6 works fine to manage the ton of publicly-accessible VMs and other services (wifi mesh network) I run from home.

When I'm working from outside home, I use a tinc VPN to access my IPv6 services, and also redirect my IPv6 traffic through my home network.

Other fun experiment: if you are ipv6-enabled, look at the percentage of bittorrent peers who are in ipv6 vs ipv4. IPv6 is growing.

Re: An IPv6-only VPS that costs less

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Post by radimm »

quasque wrote: post #48
radimm wrote: post #18

Anybody has experience with Gandi VPS? Let's say compared to Linode or DigitalOcean?

This was a while ago, but Gandi disabled my account - with no warnings - for running a Tor node on one of my VPSes. I then had to send a copy of my passport to eventually get it reenabled. The frustrating thing was that they were also my domain registrar, so during that time I lost all access to my domains as well. I transferred my domains away after that and decided it wasn't wise to mix services together due to thi…

Thanks! This is actually very important as I do use them for my 'important' domains as well. Even though I can't foresee any problem like this, it's something to keep an eye on.

Re: An IPv6-only VPS that costs less

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Post by Qantourisc »

quasque wrote: post #48
radimm wrote: post #18

Anybody has experience with Gandi VPS? Let's say compared to Linode or DigitalOcean?

This was a while ago, but Gandi disabled my account - with no warnings - for running a Tor node on one of my VPSes. I then had to send a copy of my passport to eventually get it reenabled. The frustrating thing was that they were also my domain registrar, so during that time I lost all access to my domains as well. I transferred my domains away after that and decided it wasn't wise to mix services together due to thi…

Can you provide more details about your situation ?

Re: An IPv6-only VPS that costs less

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Post by tombrossman »

radimm wrote: post #18

Anybody has experience with Gandi VPS? Let's say compared to Linode or DigitalOcean?

I've used Gandi for the last 3 years and DigitalOcean for about six months. I like both of them but for mostly non-overlapping reasons.

DigitalOcean has excellent documentation and very fast responses to my support queries. Their prices are lower. I'll keep using them and recommending them to others.

Gandi gives me very good performance as well as a few extras that keep me interested. They also offer a broader range of services (like domain registration) and have an excellent track record of supporting good causes. I'll keep using them and can recommend them as well.

If I (maybe unfairly) divide user skill levels up into thirds, I'd recommend DigitalOcean to an average user, and Gandi to those with above & below average needs. Basically, Gandi has simpler products for those new to hosting and also rolls out new things like IPV6 and DNSSEC faster if you really want to test them. These aren't always supported (you break it, you may be on your own) but are available early compared to other hosts.

Rather than look at this as a zero sum proposition, take a look at Gandi's 'supports'[1] page, realise that they continue to thrive despite no advertising, and think about whether you want in on that deal.

[1]https://www.gandi.net/supports/

Re: An IPv6-only VPS that costs less

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Post by stephen_g »

eksith wrote: post #9
AndrewDucker wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So you didn't implement because of a problem that affects 0.03% of people worldwide?

At the time, 90% of our clients constituted that 0.03%. We're no longer in the specialty networking/server scope.

What exactly led them to all having such misconfigured networks?

Re: An IPv6-only VPS that costs less

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Post by gonzo »

AndrewDucker wrote: post #10
growse wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nobody, except for between 2 and 2.5% of Google's users ( http://www.google.com/ipv6/statistics.html ).

And doubling every year: January 2011: 0.24% January 2012: 0.41% January 2013: 1.07% Not-quite January 2014: 2.54% Which means that it will be ubiquitous within 5 years, if it carries on this trend.

2015: 5%

2016: 10%

2017: 20%

2018: 40%

2019: 80%

Not quite ubiquity. Also, expect some flattening of the growth rate.

Re: An IPv6-only VPS that costs less

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Post by bwaine »

dagw wrote: post #7

Sounds like an interesting solution for back end servers and compute clusters. Your front end or control server has IPv4 to talk to the world, but all your database and back end compute servers that only talk to the front end server can be IPv6 servers to save money.

> "Due to this situation, the market value of IPv4 addresses is rising... "

This is fantastic news. I have a private network full of them.

Re: An IPv6-only VPS that costs less

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Post by AndrewDucker »

gonzo wrote: post #57
AndrewDucker wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And doubling every year: January 2011: 0.24% January 2012: 0.41% January 2013: 1.07% Not-quite January 2014: 2.54% Which means that it will be ubiquitous within 5 years, if it carries on this trend.

2015: 5% 2016: 10% 2017: 20% 2018: 40% 2019: 80% Not quite ubiquity. Also, expect some flattening of the growth rate.

I actually expect it to accelerate. Once it has significant takeup you start to look bad if you don't support it, which will add to the drivers for ISPs to implement it.
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