We actually don't "need" anything more social.
Thank you!
Facebook is for grandparents: What we need in a next-gen social network
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Re: Facebook is for grandparents: What we need in a next-gen social network
#52The social networks are like TV shows. They have a limited run. This is because it's entertainment, rather than tech. Hollywood knows how this works, and they do not incorporate or IPO each individual TV show: instead they incorporate studios, that produce many different shows. Facebook is forced into this model too by reality, thus they bought Instagram, and tried to buy Snapchat. Those shows will also have a limite…
You haven't provided any evidence that social networks in fact behave like TV shows. The fact that one effect of social networks is to entertain people, and the fact that TV shows also have the effect of entertaining people, does not imply social networks are therefore bound to the rules/generalizations of TV shows.
That's pretty lame, argonaut. OP made an interesting analogy which I haven't seen before. He is setting the stage for further discussion. It's not like he ended his post with "QED."
Re: Facebook is for grandparents: What we need in a next-gen social network
#53Earlier quoted context omitted.
You haven't provided any evidence that social networks in fact behave like TV shows. The fact that one effect of social networks is to entertain people, and the fact that TV shows also have the effect of entertaining people, does not imply social networks are therefore bound to the rules/generalizations of TV shows.
That's pretty lame, argonaut. OP made an interesting analogy which I haven't seen before. He is setting the stage for further discussion. It's not like he ended his post with "QED."
Why is my point lame? The funny thing is that I responded precisely because I thought the OP's analogy was lame. I think it's only slightly removed from the usual "X social network is a fad" comment. Saying "Facebook will fail [because of the above]" is closer to QED than it is to setting the stage for further discussion.
Re: Facebook is for grandparents: What we need in a next-gen social network
#54The social networks are like TV shows. They have a limited run. This is because it's entertainment, rather than tech. Hollywood knows how this works, and they do not incorporate or IPO each individual TV show: instead they incorporate studios, that produce many different shows. Facebook is forced into this model too by reality, thus they bought Instagram, and tried to buy Snapchat. Those shows will also have a limite…
I worked for one of those "non-gaming software studio" and I am doubtful that this approach is the right one.
My experience is unfortunately anecdotal, but I'd say the energy you have in an early stage startup that is focused on building a good product is difficult to replicate, and without this, I believe competing against the Instagrams and the Facebooks is no easy task.
Re: Facebook is for grandparents: What we need in a next-gen social network
#55All the kids are already switching to WeChat, Vine, Flickr and others.
With the mobile number as identifier, mobile is the next Facebook.
Re: Facebook is for grandparents: What we need in a next-gen social network
#56Where is the disintermediation?
All this talk of "products" seems to miss the root problem with these social networks - they aren't networks. They are centralized databases that are designed that way not for the benefit of the users but as means of simplifying the profit model. Because they all share that same inherent design, they will all share the same fate.
The next generation in social networks will be something that is actually a network, until then all that's really going on is "rearranging deckchairs on the titanic."
Re: Facebook is for grandparents: What we need in a next-gen social network
#57The social networks are like TV shows. They have a limited run. This is because it's entertainment, rather than tech. Hollywood knows how this works, and they do not incorporate or IPO each individual TV show: instead they incorporate studios, that produce many different shows. Facebook is forced into this model too by reality, thus they bought Instagram, and tried to buy Snapchat. Those shows will also have a limite…
I would argue the social networks as a whole operate more like a network than a tv show. The features are the shows, the users provide the episodes.
The challenge is to get the right features sho that the users provide the content that keeps their friends and connections coming back.
Re: Facebook is for grandparents: What we need in a next-gen social network
#58Don't see what 'radical' change there is to move to another social site. Besides my grandparents are using it so it's not cool.
Re: Facebook is for grandparents: What we need in a next-gen social network
#59The new social network should share profits with users who create the content. In fact, it shall only take a small commission, and offer the option to convert the commission to a fixed monthly sum in exchange for the technology services it provides. An interesting idea, but won't that encourage spam?
Yeah, variations of this have been tried repeatedly and failed. Refer.ly is one of the most recent that comes to mind. The whole point of social networks is to be social with people you enjoy. As soon as you provide financial incentive, then things get skewed. Maybe there's a model or variation under which this could work. But, simply allowing people to monetize interactions, the stuff they share, etc. will pervert t…
As soon as you provide financial incentive, then things get skewed.
I would go so far as to say that what is required is something that discourages financial gain. Money perverts social relationships. Long before the internet people were saying things like "never lend money to a friend because you won't be friends any more." The green card lawyers were among the first to abuse the net for financial gain and that model of spam has gone on to be an enormous drag on the utility of the net.
Re: Facebook is for grandparents: What we need in a next-gen social network
#60The social networks are like TV shows. They have a limited run. This is because it's entertainment, rather than tech. Hollywood knows how this works, and they do not incorporate or IPO each individual TV show: instead they incorporate studios, that produce many different shows. Facebook is forced into this model too by reality, thus they bought Instagram, and tried to buy Snapchat. Those shows will also have a limite…
Does this mean I'm going to have to rescue my data every time a software/network is "retired"?
Rather than rescuing your data, start publishing to your own platform and syndicating content out to whichever silos become popular.
This is the idea behind 'Indie Web' [1] and even though it is harder at first it is the simplest long-term solution. Domain names are cheap, hosting is cheap, and publishing isn't very difficult.