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An open letter to the media, by Anonymous
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Re: An open letter to the media, by Anonymous
#52Are the Guardian, the Telegraph and the New Statesman notable for their fair and balanced journalism (or are they the fox news of europe)?
The Telegraph is a serious, respectable newspaper; quite a way out on the right (at least by British standards), but with integrity, and open about its biases. The Guardian is more or less equal and opposite; again a serious, respectable paper, but one that caters to sandal-wearing vegan hippies. New Statesman is a very respectable magazine, probably analogous to The Economist (and with a similar right-wing but socially liberal stance). But yes, between them these are about as good as it gets, pretty much the opposite of "the fox news of europe".
Re: An open letter to the media, by Anonymous
#53The masks represent: Unity Equality Struggle against oppression That is all. Fuck warner brothers Guy Fawkes was the only person to enter the houses of parliament with honourable intentions
My word, did you study any history? Fawkes wanted to assassinate (not nobly duel or anything) the King to replace him with a more repressive King.
Re: An open letter to the media, by Anonymous
#54The following quote is relevant here: “WOULD ANY SANE PERSON think dumpster diving would have stopped Hitler, or that composting would have ended slavery or brought about the eight-hour workday, or that chopping wood and carrying water would have gotten people out of Tsarist prisons, or that dancing naked around a fire would have helped put in place the Voting Rights Act of 1957 or the Civil Rights Act of 1964? Then…
"wah wah wah corporations are bad, growth is bad" Corporations and economic growth are directly responsible for the possibility that this discussion is happening: the internet, cheap and powerful computers, etc Or even better: https://twitter.com/Kasparov63/status/391943773963304960
That's right kids: Any reform of the status quo is literally communism.
Re: An open letter to the media, by Anonymous
#55I don't understand people who are even against sweatshops, do they really want to deprive these areas of the only jobs they do have? The middle-class westerners have good intentions, sure. Do they really think though, but starving sweatshops to the point of closure, all the staff will walk into well paid work? No, in all probability, the lack of competition and the low budgets will mean they have to fight over even w…
That's cynical and easy to write from a warm chair in a western country.
The problem are the conditions that make sweat-shops the least worst alternative for a lot of people. It's power, money and corruption.
There is no financial gain for western corporations or governments to really solve these problems. We profit from the political and economical instability in these countries and therefore from the suffering these people have to endure. We make ugly deals using the World Bank and the IMF to destabilize their markets. We help to keep corrupt politicians in place and happily exploit natural resources in these countries.
But nobody cares.
Re: An open letter to the media, by Anonymous
#56Earlier quoted context omitted.
> But you can't have the internet without equipment, without servers built by guess who? Corporations. Take that away: no internet. Now you're the one strawmanning by painting it as corporations existing or not existing. It's not a binary issue. A corporation is just an organization of people with a specific legal status. There will always be organizations of people. However, I don't think we need to confer the right…
"However, I don't think we need to confer the rights of personhood to a corporation even though they don't have the same responsibilities or vulnerabilities. Similarly, it doesn't need to be the case that corporations should be able to extract value from the commons at the expense of the poor so that the privileged upper-middle class can have the cheapest possible gadgets." Good, I agree with that. But the issue with…
>>But you can't have the internet without equipment, without servers built by guess who? Corporations. Take that away: no internet.Partially correct - we need equipment, but mesh networking is becoming a reality. No corporate involvement beyond the hardware.
have a look:
http://www.dailydot.com/politics/greek-off-the-grid-internet...
Re: An open letter to the media, by Anonymous
#57The masks represent: Unity Equality Struggle against oppression That is all. Fuck warner brothers Guy Fawkes was the only person to enter the houses of parliament with honourable intentions
Honourable? What are you talking about? He was butt hurt that Catholicism had been ousted and wanted to bring it back into power.
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#58Are the Guardian, the Telegraph and the New Statesman notable for their fair and balanced journalism (or are they the fox news of europe)?
A famous quote from the satirical political TV comedy Yes, Minister sums up the British press fairly well. Amusingly, one of the characters is named Jim Hacker. Hacker: Don't tell me about the press. I know exactly who reads the papers: the Daily Mirror is read by people who think they run the country; The Guardian is read by people who think they ought to run the country; The Times is read by people who actually do…
Here is a the clip: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGscoaUWW2M
Re: An open letter to the media, by Anonymous
#59I don't understand people who are even against sweatshops, do they really want to deprive these areas of the only jobs they do have? The middle-class westerners have good intentions, sure. Do they really think though, but starving sweatshops to the point of closure, all the staff will walk into well paid work? No, in all probability, the lack of competition and the low budgets will mean they have to fight over even w…
There must be ground rules for the game of capitalism. Market's are awesome at balancing things like price/quality/features. Most consumers can do that, and if they can't, well... caveat emptor.
But if the quality is so bad that people die, or are maimed, poisoned, or otherwise injured, we have different rules. Consumers aren't good at this, they aren't experts, they don't have the right information. So they turn to regulation (or certification - a voluntary form of regulation). These ethical factors are, of course, a trade-off with the others. Sweatshops and child labor are immoral, we will not tolerate that.
You bring up the interesting point of transition, though. If we stop buying these masks, those people lose their opportunities, and we run the risk that they'll just be produced in some other sweatshop somewhere. As such I am a big fan of transitionary programs with auditing, where if bad conditions are found, the owners are incentivized to make gradual improvements or risk losing customers.
Re: An open letter to the media, by Anonymous
#60The following quote is relevant here: “WOULD ANY SANE PERSON think dumpster diving would have stopped Hitler, or that composting would have ended slavery or brought about the eight-hour workday, or that chopping wood and carrying water would have gotten people out of Tsarist prisons, or that dancing naked around a fire would have helped put in place the Voting Rights Act of 1957 or the Civil Rights Act of 1964? Then…
Consumer culture and the capitalist mindset have taught us to substitute acts of personal consumption (or enlightenment) for organized political resistance.
"The mind is not a vessel to be filled but a fire to be kindled." - Plutarch