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Upcoming Nexus 5 leaks in white, Nov. 1 launch date reported

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Re: Upcoming Nexus 5 leaks in white, Nov. 1 launch date reported

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Post by Jare »

gradstudent wrote: post #12
Jare wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have seen my share of longtime iPhone owners complain loudly about iOS7. I can imagine a few of them switching when the opportunity arrives. Also, some carriers are not "subsidizing" handsets anymore; for upfront payment the low price and fantastic value of Nexus hardware has a huge edge over the iPhone 5C.

Many people also complain loudly about the latest Windows or the newest MacOS but they're not exactly jumping ship. Why do you think the case is different for iPhone users?

Mobile/appliance environment is much more portable, and many people invest less in it. A couple of ideas:

- Desktop devices tend to last much longer before being completely replaced (unless you're a gamer). Even if you change your desktop machine, you often keep your keyboard/mouse, external NTFS drives, etc.

- There are more platform-specific apps that can tie you to a certain OS, either because of the app itself mat not be available (Games?), because you'd have to buy it again (Photoshop?), or because of the investment in workflow (MS Office?) or data (iPhoto?) that you have already made for it.

Once a mobile platform reaches a reasonable level of availability of popular apps, it's essentially viable for anyone to switch to. Unless you are addicted to Hay Day or rely a lot on Paper, or something like that, it's easy to move to a new platform. That's why it's also crucial that aspiring platforms make it totally easy to port stuff, and here's a place where Microsoft has made a huge mess with all their awesome but somewhat restricted tools, and constantly moving goalposts and platform strategy (C#? .NET? Silverlight? XNA? WPF? WinRT? HTML5? C++? Native or Managed or /CLR or...? I don't even know anymore).

All that said, OSX and Macs are much more popular now than say 5 years ago, so there is some ship jumping. The cloud really is eroding people's attachment to they desktops, and that's the reason Chromebooks and even Linux have even a chance at reaching the mass market.

Re: Upcoming Nexus 5 leaks in white, Nov. 1 launch date reported

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Post by Jare »

bane wrote: post #42
ruswick wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have been an iPhone user for upwards of three years, and used an iPod touch for two years prior to that. I hate iOS 7. The aesthetic is too bare and feels excessively simplistic, and the new animations have totally stripped me of the ability to perform multiple operations in quick succession. The OS looks worse and performs worse. (Not to mention the sheer volume of bugs that Apple neglected to fix. I might be able…

Another anecdote. My facebook wall was full of "I hate iOS7" posts right after it came out. A few folks I know switched, a few said "now it's just like Android" (whatever that means), and the rest are just gritting their teeth for the next couple years hoping Apple sorts it out before the end of their contract. I know a few people who are fine with 6 or 7, but I've never heard a single soul say "iOS 7 is freaking awe…

For the record, I'm over 40 and think iOS7, quirks and all, was a wonderful thing to happen to my iPhone5, and I can barely stomach looking at iOS6 things. But then, I'm not a standard iOS person: I only have iPhones because of work/dev reasons, for personal use I shop at Google, and in my ideal world, WP8 lived up to its potential, Surfaces were cheaper, and both had become a huge success.

Re: Upcoming Nexus 5 leaks in white, Nov. 1 launch date reported

#53

Post by IBM »

bane wrote: post #42
ruswick wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have been an iPhone user for upwards of three years, and used an iPod touch for two years prior to that. I hate iOS 7. The aesthetic is too bare and feels excessively simplistic, and the new animations have totally stripped me of the ability to perform multiple operations in quick succession. The OS looks worse and performs worse. (Not to mention the sheer volume of bugs that Apple neglected to fix. I might be able…

Another anecdote. My facebook wall was full of "I hate iOS7" posts right after it came out. A few folks I know switched, a few said "now it's just like Android" (whatever that means), and the rest are just gritting their teeth for the next couple years hoping Apple sorts it out before the end of their contract. I know a few people who are fine with 6 or 7, but I've never heard a single soul say "iOS 7 is freaking awe…

We don't need anecdotes. Anyone can search for iOS 7 on Twitter and see reactions in real time. The majority of iPhone users said they loved it when it became available.

https://twitter.com/search?q=iOS%207&src=typd&f=realtime

Re: Upcoming Nexus 5 leaks in white, Nov. 1 launch date reported

#54

Post by bane »

IBM wrote: post #53
bane wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Another anecdote. My facebook wall was full of "I hate iOS7" posts right after it came out. A few folks I know switched, a few said "now it's just like Android" (whatever that means), and the rest are just gritting their teeth for the next couple years hoping Apple sorts it out before the end of their contract. I know a few people who are fine with 6 or 7, but I've never heard a single soul say "iOS 7 is freaking awe…

We don't need anecdotes. Anyone can search for iOS 7 on Twitter and see reactions in real time. The majority of iPhone users said they loved it when it became available. https://twitter.com/search?q=iOS%207&src=typd&f=realtime

here's the Tweets I just got (in English) as of 10:33pm Eastern. Yes....2 out of all of these "love" it. A ringing endorsement.

* Literally trying to change your wallpaper with iOS7 is the worst

* Don't Like The Blur Effect In iOS 7? Remove It Using This Simple Trick

* i've just noticed that 2days ago even on "Apps for iOS 7" ... So ugly :)

* I hope there aren't that many changes to the OS because a sista is still lost with ios 7 update..

* iOS 7 has made my iPod crash so much I can't even

* I would call but I think I've been blocked.. Damn you new IOS 7 for that option

* I swear if my phone makes me update to the new IOS7 ima flip out on someone!!

* For iOS users, avoiding iCloud gets harder with Mavericks http://zite.to/1g5kcKg this is going to be bad 7 iOSs one ID

* I finally downloaded iOS 7 and I actually really like it now

* Finally updated to iOS7. Everything is beautiful.

* I feel like I'm the only one who still hasn't updated their phone to the iOS 7

* Dear everyone, the iOS 7 Voice Memos app has a bug where it "saves" but ultimately fails to record all recordings above 15 minutes.

* Man fuck this iOS 7 update.

* Trying Tweetbot 3 because you nerds wouldn’t shut up about it. It’s like a syringe of pure iOS 7, straight to the eyeball.

* delete and reinstall the app. sometimes when the iOS gets updated like it did from 6 to 7 some stuff gets jacked up.

* iOS 7 is completely and totally overrated. It makes my phone crash so much. -.-

* Yo my iPad never messed up until ios7

Re: Upcoming Nexus 5 leaks in white, Nov. 1 launch date reported

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Post by krzyk »

gailees wrote: post #6

The Nexus 5 has the opportunity to pull a lot of disenchanted iPhone users to Android. What would it take for you to make the switch?

I'm not a iPhone (I have Nexus 4) user but looking at the screenshots of iOS 7 it looks way better than iOS 6, why are the people complaining? Have they made the usability worse, or are they used to the "old" (in my opinion ugly) look of iOS6?

Re: Upcoming Nexus 5 leaks in white, Nov. 1 launch date reported

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Post by jonknee »

aaronbrethorst wrote: post #7
gailees wrote: post #6

The Nexus 5 has the opportunity to pull a lot of disenchanted iPhone users to Android. What would it take for you to make the switch?

Who are these disenchanted iPhone users? I'm not trying to bait you, I'm genuinely curious who you think will switch. iPhone users are generally considered to have the highest satisfaction of any mobile phone users. http://appleinsider.com/articles/13/10/17/jd-power-ranks-app...

I'm one. iOS 7 didn't solve any of the problems with iOS, it just made them look different. I'm tired of not being able to open things in the app I'd like (not Safari, not Apple Maps, etc). I'm tired of a useless home screen of apps that I don't really use--I'd rather have useful things displayed like I can on Android.

I do like Apple's hardware and it's build quality. I have a Nexus 4 for testing and it's nice, but its lack of LTE meant it wasn't going to be a daily use device for me.

The idea of a well-build non-customized Android device with LTE and NFC (so I can use a YubiKey with it) is very appealing.

Re: Upcoming Nexus 5 leaks in white, Nov. 1 launch date reported

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Post by jonknee »

MojoJolo wrote: post #2

I'm wondering if the launch will still entail the problems that encountered before. Can't handle the traffic, not much stock, problems with shipping, etc. It is because I'm looking forward to get one, but I'll be staying here in SF till Nov. 8. So if the launch still has those problems, I might not manage to get a Nexus 5.

That problem is a feature for Apple--investors freak out if there are still products available to ship when Apple launches a phone (see the iPhone 5C as an example).

Re: Upcoming Nexus 5 leaks in white, Nov. 1 launch date reported

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Post by Teckla »

krzyk wrote: post #55
gailees wrote: post #6

The Nexus 5 has the opportunity to pull a lot of disenchanted iPhone users to Android. What would it take for you to make the switch?

I'm not a iPhone (I have Nexus 4) user but looking at the screenshots of iOS 7 it looks way better than iOS 6, why are the people complaining? Have they made the usability worse, or are they used to the "old" (in my opinion ugly) look of iOS6?

I'm not a iPhone (I have Nexus 4) user but looking at the screenshots of iOS 7 it looks way better than iOS 6, why are the people complaining? Have they made the usability worse, or are they used to the "old" (in my opinion ugly) look of iOS6?

I'm not a smartphone user at all, but I do have an iPad that I use frequently.

I find iOS 7 sterile, lifeless, joyless, and flat. I like colors and depth, and iOS 7 seems all about being colorless and flat.

That's just my opinion, though. Others, I'm sure, enjoy the iOS 7 look and feel.

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