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Does Our Industry Have a Drinking Problem?

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Re: Does Our Industry Have a Drinking Problem?

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Nice link bait by the author, wow.

It's a curated collection of articles with only a byline to the author. It seems a worthy subject of introspection. So do you think it's really link bait?

Yes I do. She merely just says she'd rather find another meetup spot that's not a pub and offers suggestions. Doesn't go into boorish drunken behavior that she witnessed at these meetups or something equally alarming that one would expect from someone who presupposes 'Does our industry have a drinking problem?' That's a pretty weighty title, but unfortunately in today's world where it's all about getting page views, people will now dilute once-weighty-sounding titles for to increase clickthrough rate.

Re: Does Our Industry Have a Drinking Problem?

#53

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Certainly conferences have a drinking problem. I've been to conferences in many industries: Software, Consumer Products, Consulting, Financial Services... There are very hung over audiences in each. I think the common theme is you have two audiences: Young people who like to party and overdo it, and old people who have a rare night out and inadvertantly overdo it. I don't have empirical numbers, but I'd say many (hal…

I would argue that those overdoing it aren't doing so on accident. Everyone in management at the company I worked for went to these conferences specifically to get drunk with customers.

Of course there is also bonding going on. And a lot of folks who have responsibilities while at home have more freedom on the road.

Re: Does Our Industry Have a Drinking Problem?

#54

Does our industry have an anxiety problem? Does our industry have an overgeneralization problem? Does our industry have a busybody problem? Does our industry have a problem with emotional overindulgence?

"Hey, don't look at me, I'm just asking questions!"

Re: Does Our Industry Have a Drinking Problem?

#55

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Society has a bit of a drinking problem. (Some other societies, like Russia, have a bigger one. Some have less.) Next question? :P

The next question is that if it's a problem how do we solve it? > That said, I am still struggling to find good alternatives to the pub meetup, particularly in the UK. Other than taking over the corner of a larger coffee shop for a daytime meet, what kind of things are possible and inexpensive for small groups? // So ditch alcohol and go with caffeine instead ... hmm. Maybe with the right groupings gaming could be pa…

You need something that people can share, that requires communication and so initiates conversation. (That gives people something to do with their hands? That fosters a sense of shared experience?) Some types of gaming can do that and in certain sectors gaming may be as universal as drinking.

It also needs to be sufficiently unstructured that people can drift in and out as individual conversations move past small talk.

Re: Does Our Industry Have a Drinking Problem?

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No, our industry has a blogging problem. Tech (is that our industry?) is not unique in it's practice of hosting happy hours, especially after conferences. People like drinking. We could ask more conferences to host 5k jogs as an alternative meeting event, and it would be novel and fun, but it likely wouldn't ever be as inclusive as a happy hour (Also, it's hard to get 5 people in a circle talking while on a jog). Not…

Almost anyone, regardless of age, weight, sex, health or ableness can sit around in a bar sitting a soda.

Although I've got muslim friends who are uncomfortable being somewhere where alcohol is being served.

I'd agree that a 5k run is vastly less inclusive.

Re: Does Our Industry Have a Drinking Problem?

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I upvoted after the first sentence of your comment. The rest is good, but that first sentence is gold.

if you think people over-express their opinions on blogs then why do you hangout in places like HN, click on links, read blog posts, and then go in and comment on them?

Well, I don't do much of #3 & #4, but do plenty of #1 & #2. I count on the community to vet the loudness of private time-wasters. And so public watering holes become more palatable.

Re: Does Our Industry Have a Drinking Problem?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a curated collection of articles with only a byline to the author. It seems a worthy subject of introspection. So do you think it's really link bait?

Yes I do. She merely just says she'd rather find another meetup spot that's not a pub and offers suggestions. Doesn't go into boorish drunken behavior that she witnessed at these meetups or something equally alarming that one would expect from someone who presupposes 'Does our industry have a drinking problem?' That's a pretty weighty title, but unfortunately in today's world where it's all about getting page views,…

A drinking problem doesn't need to be drunken rowdiness. I just take it that she's saying "the focus of our social time appears to be consumption of alcohol, is that true, is that right?".
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