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Re: How to Build Willpower for the Weak

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How is delicious fruit not "sugar shit" exactly? Eating poorly gives you energy too. Energy is measured in calories. Consuming sufficient calories is not a challenge.

Fruit is far healthier than junk food.

Healthier but not necessarily far healthier. It's harder to overeat fruit since much of it has large water and fiber content. But fruit is still mostly empty calorie sugar. When given the choice between junk food and fruit pick fruit but there are alternatives.

Re: How to Build Willpower for the Weak

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Something I've yet to see explored is the difference between negative and positive willpower. For example, I find it very difficult to motivate myself to do something I don't want to do, and easy to procrastinate. But it is relatively easy for me to have the willpower not to do something that I do want to do. On the other hand, many people seem to have the opposite problem; they find it relatively easy to do things t…

I've thought a lot about this one, too. I'm in the opposite camp from you. Restraint is so much harder than "willfulness".

I'm great at putting myself through punishing training, physical or mental over a short duration but very weak in resisting things over the long term. For example, I've done endurance events that involve sleep deprivation, done intense 80hr/week work weeks when starting a business and even swimming sprint workouts so hard that I puked. But I've struggled greatly to avoid things like eating that extra 1500 kcal of cheese while watching Netflix from midnight to 2am.

The result has been a very high variance in my success at various endeavors. In the past year or so, I've been coming to believe that improving my weaker "negative" willpower carries a much greater benefit at this point than further improving my "positive" willpower. It's almost like the blades of a pair of scissors. If one it sharp enough, it can cut things on its own, but it's far better to have both blades at least reasonably sharp.

Re: How to Build Willpower for the Weak

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Something I've yet to see explored is the difference between negative and positive willpower. For example, I find it very difficult to motivate myself to do something I don't want to do, and easy to procrastinate. But it is relatively easy for me to have the willpower not to do something that I do want to do. On the other hand, many people seem to have the opposite problem; they find it relatively easy to do things t…

First of all, I too think this is an interesting idea that I've never heard/considered before. I too find restraint easy but action difficult.

I agree, too, with your last paragraph.

But aside from that, even if individuals we do not find good strategies for better managing our weaknesses.... can we find better strategies for collaborating with others with complementary strengths and weaknesses? Of the people replying to you and stating a side, it looks like roughly a 50/50 split.

Is it possible for strong-restraint people to lend restraint to weak-restraint people? Is it possible for strong-initiative people to lend initiative to weak-initiative people?

Re: How to Build Willpower for the Weak

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How is delicious fruit not "sugar shit" exactly? Eating poorly gives you energy too. Energy is measured in calories. Consuming sufficient calories is not a challenge.

Fruit is far healthier than junk food.

>sugar is far healthier than sugar

Really? By what definition of "healthy"?

Re: How to Build Willpower for the Weak

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Fruit is far healthier than junk food.

>sugar is far healthier than sugar Really? By what definition of "healthy"?

Fruit contains far more than just sugar: fiber for example, is great for you. Vitamins and minerals are also, generally speaking, good for you.

Furthermore, eating fruit will not spike your blood sugar the same way an equivalent amount of pure sugar or a caloric equivalent amount of junk food.

These are not controversial statements, there is plenty of actual research to back this up.

Finally, there are many ways to heat healthfully, and fruit is not essential: however it is unambiguously healthier for you than junk food.

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Just continue teaching people, like you are doing now.

No, that's not the point at all. If it reads as condescending, you didn't pick up on the last few sentences well enough. I've done plenty of stuff that I regret, some of it worse than what I'm sure the average person has done.

"If I sound condescending, it's because you just didn't understand what I was trying to say"

wow.

Re: How to Build Willpower for the Weak

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Wow, you are so special. Edit: I think you took it down for your own sake, not ours.

You're not the friendliest person around. Do you delight in making me feel bad?

How am I making you feel bad? By pointing out that you have an inflated self perception? And if you disagree with that, then maybe you should have kept your original post up.

Re: How to Build Willpower for the Weak

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>sugar is far healthier than sugar Really? By what definition of "healthy"?

Fruit contains far more than just sugar: fiber for example, is great for you. Vitamins and minerals are also, generally speaking, good for you. Furthermore, eating fruit will not spike your blood sugar the same way an equivalent amount of pure sugar or a caloric equivalent amount of junk food. These are not controversial statements, there is plenty of actual research to back this up. Finally, there are many ways to h…

Yes, eating fruit will spike your blood sugar just like candy will. Notice how diabetics need to eat candy or fruit if their blood sugar gets low? There's a reason they say either one, because they have the same effect. Sugar is sugar. You believe adding a tiny amount of a few vitamins that are easy to get well over your RDA of already makes candy into health food. I believe candy is still candy even with a bit of vitamin C in it.
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