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Re: Apple Special Event October 2013 Live Stream

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Post by Achshar »

M4v3R wrote: post #28
Achshar wrote: post #17

Ok so it's that time of the year again. I am on windows and have chrome, firefox, ie 11, VLC, flash. Is there any way for me to watch this stream? Heck will this work even if I get quicktime? Edit: * So they updated the page to say it will work for quicktime if you are on windows. * But I am on win 8 and they use js to hide that part. So for now I am assuming it's because quicktime on it's download page only says it…

Apple uses HTTP Live Streaming protocol. VLC should be able to play it just fine. You will probably need a custom URL to feed VLC though. I'll paste the URL here once it's available. EDIT: Quick bash script for extracting VLC-playable URLs (when they're available): curl `curl http://www.apple.com/apple-events/september-2013/ | grep "p.events-delivery.apple.com" | sed 's/\ UPDATE: Here are the links: / snowLeopardurl…

So the url will be in the page source? Even when the page is on incompatible software?

Re: Apple Special Event October 2013 Live Stream

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Post by danpalmer »

pornel wrote: post #14
coolnow wrote: post #2

Sorry if this is always brought up (i haven't seen an Apple stream since the iPhone 4 event), but we /still/ need Quicktime to stream this? What the hell?

I presume they're using their HTTP Live Streaming (hack with chunked video for variable framerate). It's supported by VLC and a few other players, but not natively in browsers yet.

It's supported natively by Safari, Mac OS and iOS. And it's not a hack, it's a specified protocol that a few media companies seem to be taking up now.

Re: Apple Special Event October 2013 Live Stream

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Post by selectodude »

jakobe wrote: post #47
nathas wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

...Pardon my ignorance, I've never owned an Apple product, but you can't use multiple monitors effectively on OS X? You're kidding right?

Short explanation: You can use multiple monitors just fine in extended Desktop mode. However, there are two issues that drive people crazy: 1) When you go enable full screen mode for an app, the app fills one display and all other displays are blanked with a gray linnen texture. That's may be useful if you are watching a movie and don't want other displays to annoy you, but it's really annoying if you just want eg. M…

Really, 10.9 just fixes two regressions that worked perfectly fine in 10.6 and were dutifully broken in 10.7.

Re: Apple Special Event October 2013 Live Stream

#54

Post by etimesg »

radicalbyte wrote: post #40
etimesg wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

15:00 São Paulo (Summer Time). Here's an updated TZ list http://everytimezone.com/#2013-10-22,300,6bj

Today is the first time in months that I've searched for an international timetracker. Was really impressed with this: http://www.worldtimebuddy.com/est-to-cet-converter Finally, a website with a very clear visualization of various timezones. Then you post evertimezone.com, which does a very similar thing, but with battery-friendly css :)

What I like about everytimezone is that a single access provides all information I need, no interaction required.

As for the design, I appreciate the work of Amy Hoy. She also did a great job with their time tracking app: letsfreckle.com

Re: Apple Special Event October 2013 Live Stream

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Post by stinos »

arrrg wrote: post #49
nathas wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

...Pardon my ignorance, I've never owned an Apple product, but you can't use multiple monitors effectively on OS X? You're kidding right?

This argument is a bit of a red herring. Ever since the dawn of OS X Apple changed nothing at all about how multiple monitors work with the OS. If you don’t use (the much later added) fullscreen function in some apps or (the much later added) Spaces there is no problem at all. That’s why all the arguments about multiple monitors being unusable are honestly a bit ridiculous and over the top. The problem was always how…

So your argument is "basically nothing is wrong (first two paragraphs), and if it is, it's because you are using it wrong (fullscreen = waste of space)"? That's a special point of view, and sort of the contrary of what jakobe and others are saying.

Anyway, for an example of how fullscreen makes sense I suggest you look at video or audio editing software. You just need all the space you can get there.

Re: Apple Special Event October 2013 Live Stream

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Post by adestefan »

jakobe wrote: post #47
nathas wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

...Pardon my ignorance, I've never owned an Apple product, but you can't use multiple monitors effectively on OS X? You're kidding right?

Short explanation: You can use multiple monitors just fine in extended Desktop mode. However, there are two issues that drive people crazy: 1) When you go enable full screen mode for an app, the app fills one display and all other displays are blanked with a gray linnen texture. That's may be useful if you are watching a movie and don't want other displays to annoy you, but it's really annoying if you just want eg. M…

> 2) Mac OS Lion also added a feature named "Spaces" (I think this is called virtual desktops or so on other platforms). The problem is that when you switch between spaces, both screens switch simultaneously. Now let's assume you use your secondary monitor to show an IM client, or to show some live error log, or similar, it's really annoying if that disappears when you switch between spaces on your main display.

Can you explain how is this fixed? Are the spaces on each monitor independent or is there a method to "always show" certain windows? Because I really hate the former method.

Re: Apple Special Event October 2013 Live Stream

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Post by vvhn »

iMark wrote: post #4
ScottWhigham wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When I view the page in FF24, it says "Live Streaming video requires Safari 4 or later on OS X v10.6 or later; Safari on iOS 4.2 or later." I'm just as surprised that it "requires Safari" which is just ... silly.

The iPod didn't take off until the release of the Windows version. I wonder if that lesson has been lost.

It's a live stream of a marketing event of a company. In an ideal world, no one besides die hard apple fans should be interested in watching it live as it happens.

I don't remember the iPod with Windows video event being streamed live as well but yet, as you say, it was a success.

The video is almost always immediately available for everyone after the event. What does anyone gain by watching (or providing) what is widely speculated to be an announcement of a new iteration of an existing product live ?

Re: Apple Special Event October 2013 Live Stream

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Post by grecy »

M4v3R wrote: post #28
Achshar wrote: post #17

Ok so it's that time of the year again. I am on windows and have chrome, firefox, ie 11, VLC, flash. Is there any way for me to watch this stream? Heck will this work even if I get quicktime? Edit: * So they updated the page to say it will work for quicktime if you are on windows. * But I am on win 8 and they use js to hide that part. So for now I am assuming it's because quicktime on it's download page only says it…

Apple uses HTTP Live Streaming protocol. VLC should be able to play it just fine. You will probably need a custom URL to feed VLC though. I'll paste the URL here once it's available. EDIT: Quick bash script for extracting VLC-playable URLs (when they're available): curl `curl http://www.apple.com/apple-events/september-2013/ | grep "p.events-delivery.apple.com" | sed 's/\ UPDATE: Here are the links: / snowLeopardurl…

Last time VLC on WinXP would crash after a few seconds trying to play the official apple stream. Check reddit.com/r/apple and someone will post up a list of "pirate streams". One of them worked great for me in Firefox on XP last time.

EDIT: As of T-45 minutes, someone said they're going to use http://www.onemorething.nl/live which will hopefully not have commentary when it starts. Also they're saying the URL for VLC is http://live.wowza.kpnstreaming.nl/onemorethinglive/OMTLIVE/p...

EDIT: For me, on Win XP, latest VLC is playing http://live.wowza.kpnstreaming.nl/onemorethinglive/OMTLIVE/p... perfectly. It's the stream, no commentary, etc.

Re: Apple Special Event October 2013 Live Stream

#59

Post by Jare »

jakobe wrote: post #47
nathas wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

...Pardon my ignorance, I've never owned an Apple product, but you can't use multiple monitors effectively on OS X? You're kidding right?

Short explanation: You can use multiple monitors just fine in extended Desktop mode. However, there are two issues that drive people crazy: 1) When you go enable full screen mode for an app, the app fills one display and all other displays are blanked with a gray linnen texture. That's may be useful if you are watching a movie and don't want other displays to annoy you, but it's really annoying if you just want eg. M…

Today was my first experience with 2 monitors on OSX (10.8), knowing nothing about how it was going to work, and your description of my feelings this morning is absolutely perfect.

Re: Apple Special Event October 2013 Live Stream

#60

Post by mung »

stinos wrote: post #55
arrrg wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This argument is a bit of a red herring. Ever since the dawn of OS X Apple changed nothing at all about how multiple monitors work with the OS. If you don’t use (the much later added) fullscreen function in some apps or (the much later added) Spaces there is no problem at all. That’s why all the arguments about multiple monitors being unusable are honestly a bit ridiculous and over the top. The problem was always how…

So your argument is "basically nothing is wrong (first two paragraphs), and if it is, it's because you are using it wrong (fullscreen = waste of space)"? That's a special point of view, and sort of the contrary of what jakobe and others are saying. Anyway, for an example of how fullscreen makes sense I suggest you look at video or audio editing software. You just need all the space you can get there.

That's a special interpretation. The parent comment is correct that they didn't actually break anything, they just didn't implement the new features thoughtfully. You could still maximise windows just like previous versions.

Now Exposé.. that's another story...

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