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Re: Ubuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander)

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Post by Demiurge »

jon-wood wrote: post #47
Demiurge wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My guess is "why? everything is working".

Having spent yesterday setting up a new laptop to dual boot Windows and Ubuntu, Ubuntu works far, far better. Windows needed drivers installing for everything from the network interface up. And I'm still having troubles with the network - I can use wifi fine, but the wired connection refuses to pick up an IP with DHCP. Ubuntu on the other hand needed a single change to the boot parameters to make screen brightness ad…

Are you saying Ubuntu has better driver support than Windows?

Re: Ubuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander)

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Post by cmiles74 »

Symmetry wrote: post #48

I was sad to see that the option to swap caps lock and escape was gone (I think I'm blaming GNOME here). But on the other hand I ought to be doing that programaticly in my setup script, so I finally just got around to adding that there. EDIT: I almost decided to switch to Xubuntu, but then I installed xfce, tried it out, and found that they didn't provide that option either. Besides, using xmonad with xfce is much mo…

I call out to setxkbmap to get this done. It should work with any window manager and desktop environment.[0]

  setxkbmap -option ctrl:nocaps
[0] https://gist.github.com/Spoygg/3122226

Re: Ubuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander)

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Post by qznc »

endijs wrote: post #40

Web is finally refreshed. And release notes are here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SaucySalamander/ReleaseNotes

Quite boring for desktop end users. No real changes. That is probably a good thing, since changes in Ubuntu usually means breakage.

Re: Ubuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander)

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Post by puller »

The beta of this has been smooth for me. I had no problems doing the upgrade (but I have used Ubuntu for a while). I am enjoying the newer versions of the kernel and some packages that are key for me. If you use Unity, the dash feels faster. I'm more pleased with this release than several past ones.

Re: Ubuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander)

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Post by puller »

baldfat wrote: post #7

Ubuntu is not going the direction I want for "my Linux. 1. Mir is a huge mistake (My opinion) 2. Unity (Well I am tiled window manager (i3) guy now so all DEs) I really don't like the flow of OS X and it is starting to really look more like OS X. DEFAULT an easily be changed. 3. Lack of community between the Linux ecosystem. Millions is spent on Ubuntu but seems like little makes it upstream. 4. Software Center. They…

So what? These aren't criticisms of today's release at all.

Mir isn't even used in 13.10.

I don't think there are any distributions which ship with i3 so you would have to install i3 in any case, that isn't a fault of Ubuntu's and since you are not using it anyway, who cares if it looks like OS X to you?

Ubuntu's work is open source, the code is there under a liberal license, what do you even want?

If you don't like software center, use apt-get or synaptic. Their "App Store" isn't for you but I am glad they have one to encourage a market for Linux software. If you don't like it, don't use it, it's not harming you.

I don't know what developer SDKs have to do with anything. This isn't Android, it's normal Linux. Write a Linux app and it runs on Ubuntu.

Why would I look at OpenSUSE if I do not specifically want an RPM-based distribution oriented toward KDE? If those are your preferences then why are you even complaining about Ubuntu?

Re: Ubuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander)

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Post by hdevalence »

frank_boyd wrote: post #22
abbot2 wrote: post #10

To be honest "what's new" page looks, well, not very convincing: https://help.ubuntu.com/13.10/ubuntu-help/whats-new.html

It's a bit sparse maybe. And as "early" adopters, we probably don't care about the social crap etc. But as long as I can yank those packages whenever I want, I'm fine with that. What I'm really excited about this time around is the launch of Ubuntu Touch, being able to use an open-source OS on my mobile phone.

> an open source OS on my mobile phone

You can do that now with Firefox OS, and unlike Ubuntu Touch, it's actually developed openly. Ubuntu for phones is open source in the same sense as Android -- developed behind closed doors by a company that doesn't particularly care about community input.

If you think that Ubuntu for phones is really going to be any more open than Android, I expect you'll be disappointed.

Re: Ubuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander)

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Post by MacsHeadroom »

eterm wrote: post #28
abbot2 wrote: post #10

To be honest "what's new" page looks, well, not very convincing: https://help.ubuntu.com/13.10/ubuntu-help/whats-new.html

As someone who doesn't use the dash, I am wondering what's in it for me. Personally I've tried a few distributions over the last year or so because I've been unhappy with unity but Ubuntu's ease of use still makes me return to it, although right now I'm typing this from a Debian box. I didn't like the dreadful* gnome3 speed so switched to i3. Now if I could just work out how to stop the lazy window focus... The troub…

>I am wondering what's in it for me.

If you're on 13.04 support ends in January.

So Continuing security patches, bug fixes, and updated features are in it for you.

Re: Ubuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander)

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Post by dman »

Demiurge wrote: post #51
jon-wood wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Having spent yesterday setting up a new laptop to dual boot Windows and Ubuntu, Ubuntu works far, far better. Windows needed drivers installing for everything from the network interface up. And I'm still having troubles with the network - I can use wifi fine, but the wired connection refuses to pick up an IP with DHCP. Ubuntu on the other hand needed a single change to the boot parameters to make screen brightness ad…

Are you saying Ubuntu has better driver support than Windows?

Without question - thats been true for a few years now.

Re: Ubuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander)

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Post by hdevalence »

Demiurge wrote: post #51
jon-wood wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Having spent yesterday setting up a new laptop to dual boot Windows and Ubuntu, Ubuntu works far, far better. Windows needed drivers installing for everything from the network interface up. And I'm still having troubles with the network - I can use wifi fine, but the wired connection refuses to pick up an IP with DHCP. Ubuntu on the other hand needed a single change to the boot parameters to make screen brightness ad…

Are you saying Ubuntu has better driver support than Windows?

I'm not the parent, but that has been my experience. Linux works better out of the box on my machine than Windows 7.
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