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Re: Why Microsoft Word must die

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(about stylesheets and codes) "Word was in fact broken by design, from the outset -- and it only got worse from there."

No. That's the "developers" point of view (and a false dichotomy)

Word is focused on the user. If the user wants to italicise one letter, it's OK to let him do it. Sometimes it's a requirement

Of course, the problem with Word is that you can't debug the mess it creates when it doesn't work the way you wanted.

Re: Why Microsoft Word must die

#52
post #4

I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of writers were less technically savvy, happiest writing in Word, or simply wouldn't know how to write in any other format. It makes sense from the publishers point of view to pick one format and stick with it, so they have a consistent editing style and ability, and only have to deal with converting one format into a final publication. I do feel that this is one of those cases where…

Hell, George R.R. Martin uses WordStar 4.0 in DOS. You don't need anything fancy to put chars in a text file.

Re: Why Microsoft Word must die

#53

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At home? False premise: It has replaced Word (for me.) That it has not for everyone or as a whole doesn't strike me as odd in the slightest. There are plenty of reasons to use Word. Aside from the fact that it's solid itself, it also has a metric ton of inertia. Those using it already have the license or pirated copy, already know it, have legacy documents using it, and are generally otherwise are left with very litt…

I know I tried to switch to LibreOffice for a few weeks and then ran back screaming. I know some others who have done the same. I haven't yet met a single person who is happier with OOo/LO than with Word; if that's true for you you're the first such person I've heard of.

I switched to NeoOffice several years ago and currently use LibreOffice. Wrote my dissertation on it. And this despite having access to MS-Office for free through a university license.

Re: Why Microsoft Word must die

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post #4

I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of writers were less technically savvy, happiest writing in Word, or simply wouldn't know how to write in any other format. It makes sense from the publishers point of view to pick one format and stick with it, so they have a consistent editing style and ability, and only have to deal with converting one format into a final publication. I do feel that this is one of those cases where…

> It makes sense from the publishers point of view to pick one format and stick with it, so they have a consistent editing style [...] One problem with Word is exactly that it is very difficult to get anything remotely consistent out of it. Even people who are very knowledgeable and smart are unable to use that hodgepodge of completely intransparent styling features correctly. Anything involving numbering and bullets…

Ah, this is me being misleading, I didn't mean the styling of the document was important(well, until it gets sent to publication, where I am sure you're right about the interns), I really meant the ability and tools to edit/review/track changes and highlight/annotate sections they want changed.

Re: Why Microsoft Word must die

#56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I know I tried to switch to LibreOffice for a few weeks and then ran back screaming. I know some others who have done the same. I haven't yet met a single person who is happier with OOo/LO than with Word; if that's true for you you're the first such person I've heard of.

I switched to NeoOffice several years ago and currently use LibreOffice. Wrote my dissertation on it. And this despite having access to MS-Office for free through a university license.

Cool! What do you like more about it than MS Office?

Re: Why Microsoft Word must die

#57

(about stylesheets and codes) "Word was in fact broken by design, from the outset -- and it only got worse from there." No. That's the "developers" point of view (and a false dichotomy) Word is focused on the user. If the user wants to italicise one letter, it's OK to let him do it. Sometimes it's a requirement Of course, the problem with Word is that you can't debug the mess it creates when it doesn't work the way y…

You can italicize one letter with styles. It's not a requirement to have two completely different methods of doing so.

Re: Why Microsoft Word must die

#58
Word is an end user product - not open source - not developer friendly - want a developer friendly format - work with ODF or similar entities pushing open standards. Word does its job fairly well.

Re: Why Microsoft Word must die

#59
Word is IMO just fine for most uses. It has lots of features and lots of ways of writing and designing documents because users wanted them. You can't blame a product on its users.

And note the 'IMO' bit: Why on earth do people think that because they don't like a piece of software, they want to force all the other happy users to stop using it. It's just selfishness and self-importance. The world won't just use the pieces of software that you want, you are going to have to live with other people's choices.

Re: Why Microsoft Word must die

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I switched to NeoOffice several years ago and currently use LibreOffice. Wrote my dissertation on it. And this despite having access to MS-Office for free through a university license.

Cool! What do you like more about it than MS Office?

I tried it because I wanted to try free (as in freedom) software and never felt the need to switch back as it did everything I required of a WYSIWYG word processor. I guess I have just gotten so used to it now that when I use Word/Excel etc (mostly briefly on someone else's computer) I get all confused about their new panel based menu system.

The point is not that they are better but that they are a suitable replacement for all but a very small niche of power users. But people tend to compare the limit cases even if all they'll ever use are the day-to-day functions.

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