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'Tor Stinks' presentation – read the full document

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Post by mcphilip »

bernarpa wrote: post #21

Today's full Tor coverage by the Guardian is: (Greenwald's article) http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/oct/04/nsa-gchq-attack... (Schneier's article) http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/oct/04/tor-attacks-nsa... (Leaked doc #1) http://www.theguardian.com/world/interactive/2013/oct/04/tor... (Leaked doc #2) http://www.theguardian.com/world/interactive/2013/oct/04/ego... (Leaked doc #3) http://www.theguardian.com/…

That Schneier article [1] is very technical and reveals quite a lot of interesting information. It was immediately flagged off HN front page by the flagging brigade [2]. It's highly recommended reading, though.

[1]http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/oct/04/tor-attacks-nsa...

[2]https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6495771

Re: 'Tor Stinks' presentation – read the full document

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Post by jstalin »

bernarpa wrote: post #21

Today's full Tor coverage by the Guardian is: (Greenwald's article) http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/oct/04/nsa-gchq-attack... (Schneier's article) http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/oct/04/tor-attacks-nsa... (Leaked doc #1) http://www.theguardian.com/world/interactive/2013/oct/04/tor... (Leaked doc #2) http://www.theguardian.com/world/interactive/2013/oct/04/ego... (Leaked doc #3) http://www.theguardian.com/…

That Schneier article is a must read with lots of technical details.

Anyone know how to start identifying the FoxAcid servers and calling them out?

Re: 'Tor Stinks' presentation – read the full document

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Post by balabaster »

When will everyone get off the bandwagon of referring to anyone that's willing to actually stand for their beliefs counter to U.S. interests a terrorist? It's gotten to the point where the word terrorist just makes me roll my eyes and say "whatever", I'm becoming desensitized to it, just like most of the UK did growing up in England during the height of IRA campaigns. After a while, it just became a tedious pain in the ass and everyone switched off.

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Post by revelation »

GeorgeOrr wrote: post #19

They actually saw it as their job to make the experience of anyone using Tor difficult. Isn't that kind of like the police deciding to make the roads full of potholes because that would make it more difficult for bank robbers to get away in a car. Then again, considering the quality of the roads these days, maybe they are way ahead of me on that.

They are doing this all the time. They are buying exploits and keep them locked up, they actively backdoor software and hardware.

Basic statistics tells us it is pure insanity to compromise our security for the noise that is "international terror".

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Post by spindritf »

criley2 wrote: post #29
api wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Terrorist" -- as everyone knew it would become -- is now shorthand for anyone undesirable or anyone targeted for any reason.

It's the new red scare, the new Soviet. We American's require a boogeyman. In all fairness, most countries do. Watching South American leaders lately shows the exact same behavior. Find a foreign devil for everyone to rally against to hide domestic issues.

Soviets were not some bogeyman. They were real, their spies were real, and the international communist movement they sponsored was real.

Rosenbergs and others did spy for the Soviets. They did successfully transfer secrets related to the atomic bomb. And they were ideologically motivated.

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Post by balabaster »

debacle wrote: post #24

This should provide clear warning to anyone who might consider themselves a cypherpunk: Even if you don't think that you are at war with the US government, the US government (and likely most other governments) believes it is at war with you. It sounds dramatic because it is.

It's all part of the theatre and propaganda. Make the weak minded believe that everyone's the boogeyman. At least people on the internet can think critically and say "Er, this doesn't sound right"

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Post by grier »

selmnoo wrote: post #32
bernarpa wrote: post #21

Today's full Tor coverage by the Guardian is: (Greenwald's article) http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/oct/04/nsa-gchq-attack... (Schneier's article) http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/oct/04/tor-attacks-nsa... (Leaked doc #1) http://www.theguardian.com/world/interactive/2013/oct/04/tor... (Leaked doc #2) http://www.theguardian.com/world/interactive/2013/oct/04/ego... (Leaked doc #3) http://www.theguardian.com/…

A lot of these articles use abstruse acronyms. Is there perhaps a place where they're all compiled with their explanations? For instance, what is (U)? Or (S), (SI), and (REL)?

U : Unclassified, S : Secret, SI : special intelligence (an SCI control marking), REL : marking that designates release

There's a bunch more too:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classified_information

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sensitive_Compartmented_Informa...

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