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Challenging the Bing It On Challenge

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Re: Challenging the Bing It On Challenge

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I was curious about the test, but, for me, http://bingiton.com/ goes straight to plain http://www.bing.com . Geolocation, I suppose. I'm in Portugal.

Bing is working worse in terms of results outside the U.S. They don't care about it.

Actually, Bing is working better outside the US than it has previously and we continue to make heavy investments in other markets. But you're correct, Bing It On only exists in the US and China at the moment.

(Note: I work for Bing.)

Re: Challenging the Bing It On Challenge

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When I've had my friends take the Bing It On challenge and polled them on the results, they usually prefer Google by about a 2:1 margin, pretty close to what Freakonomics found. It's great advertising for Google.

Are your friends people like you? Which engine do you like? Is it possible that maybe your friends aren't a representative sample of the average searcher?

(Note: I work for Bing.)

Re: Challenging the Bing It On Challenge

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When I've had my friends take the Bing It On challenge and polled them on the results, they usually prefer Google by about a 2:1 margin, pretty close to what Freakonomics found. It's great advertising for Google.

Are your friends people like you? Which engine do you like? Is it possible that maybe your friends aren't a representative sample of the average searcher? (Note: I work for Bing.)

I'm referring to my college friends. I work for Google, and my Googler friends are understandably biased; I don't include them in this sample. But I also went to a liberal arts college, and my friends there are fairly representative of educated young people in non-technical fields, and the same 2:1 ratio in favor of Google seemed to show up.

Re: Challenging the Bing It On Challenge

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm at work, and I wanted to try the challenge, but BingItOn redirects me to Bing. Maybe it's not available outside the U.S.? Bing's results are way less relevant to me than Google's, but Google does have the advantage of a lot more personal data, and a specific subdomain for my country (.uy) which often returns more relevant queries (OTOH for programming I often have to force the U.S. website). That's the reason I d…

You're correct, Bing It On is US only (although I believe there is also a Chinese version). As for Uruguay, we're always working to improve our international coverage - check back soon! (Note: I work for Bing.)

Thanks matt :)

Competition is a good thing, I really hope you can improve on Google's results.

I do happily use a lot of other Microsoft products, so I know you'll give a good fight :)

Re: Challenging the Bing It On Challenge

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are your friends people like you? Which engine do you like? Is it possible that maybe your friends aren't a representative sample of the average searcher? (Note: I work for Bing.)

I'm referring to my college friends. I work for Google, and my Googler friends are understandably biased; I don't include them in this sample. But I also went to a liberal arts college, and my friends there are fairly representative of educated young people in non-technical fields, and the same 2:1 ratio in favor of Google seemed to show up.

I went to a liberal arts college (Swarthmore) and I have to say: there is no way my friends are representative of the average American. grins Only one in four adult Americans has a college degree. Average income: 30K. Building search that appeals just to my friends is not my, or Bing's, mission.

(Note: I work for Bing.)

Re: Challenging the Bing It On Challenge

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post #43

tl;dr if you take the Bing challenge and make Bing your default search, try other variations on Bing as you would have on Google. I tried the Bing challenge, and changed my default search to Bing almost a year ago. According to Google I was performing 10k - 20k searches per month, so Bing Rewards was an appealing incentive. Over a years time, those are some decent rewards. Bing results are very good. The notable exce…

Well noted! I actually wrote about this very psych effect on the Bing blog; if Google doesn't give you a good result, its your fault. If Bing doesn't, its Bing's fault. This is common in situations where we go in with a bias.

(Note: I work for Bing.)

Re: Challenging the Bing It On Challenge

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Also important is the fact that BingItOn reports Google results different from what I get when I search the same term on Google.com. My guess is that my results get tailored to my profile on Google.com and BingItOn.com is untailored. The thing is, tailored results are very useful. When I search Ruby, I get much better results in my own Google.com than either set on BingItOn.com.

Re: Challenging the Bing It On Challenge

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post #29
post #6

Its a little interesting, I tried Bing for a bit to avoid Google's onerous privacy issues, and I gave up. I moved to DuckDuckGo, haven't been back. The results are usually more relevant for me and I don't have to feed the Big-G machine.

The only downside to DuckDuckGo is the results are terrible -- I don't care the claims are, this search provider doesn't in the same league of intelligent search results as Google or Bing.

That hasn't been the case for me, its often more relevant than when I'd been searching on Google. Like I said, I switched and haven't been back. I'm a lot more productive and the ads are much less intrusive too.

Re: Challenging the Bing It On Challenge

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post #13
post #6

Its a little interesting, I tried Bing for a bit to avoid Google's onerous privacy issues, and I gave up. I moved to DuckDuckGo, haven't been back. The results are usually more relevant for me and I don't have to feed the Big-G machine.

What privacy issues does Google have that Bing doesn't?

There's a basically an open laundry list; its fairly extensive in terms of tracking patterns/usage to violating their own "don't be evil" policy. Bing doesn't have nearly as much paid placement, but that could be economic vs policy.

Like I said though, I don't use either :)

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