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Re: Dear USA, my data has left your building

#52
"The loss of GMail conversation view was initially really REALLY painful."

I recently experienced the same pain with Thunderbird after moving away from the new Gmail compose interface however I've since moved on to Airmail [1] which deals with conversations (and other Gmail behaviours (shortcuts etc) in a very similar way to Gmail and am extremely happy with the move.

[1] http://airmailapp.com

Re: Dear USA, my data has left your building

#53
post #52

"The loss of GMail conversation view was initially really REALLY painful." I recently experienced the same pain with Thunderbird after moving away from the new Gmail compose interface however I've since moved on to Airmail [1] which deals with conversations (and other Gmail behaviours (shortcuts etc) in a very similar way to Gmail and am extremely happy with the move. [1] http://airmailapp.com

Thanks for the tip!

I use Linux on all my laptops and workstation, so unfortunately I can't use airmail or postbox (windows + osx) for this.

Re: Dear USA, my data has left your building

#54
post #13

Obviously we[1] sympathize with this, since we've been running a swiss location since 2006 - one that has become increasingly busy in the last 3-4 months. However, I personally don't store my data there - even though I am deeply disturbed by the recent revelations and invoke all manner of security precautions in my own digital life. First of all, it appears that intra-US Internet traffic is subject to less scrutiny a…

I don't know much about rsync.net or if you guys provide a quick client-side encrypted storage method (though a quick glance at your FAQ seems to suggest otherwise).

But the reason Gmail is not being trusted is that there is some possibility the NSA has backend access to their servers via various kinds of legal arm-twisting they are not allowed to talk about. I don't encrypt the mails I send via Gmail before they hit Gmail's servers. You can't "trust the math" unless you do said math and encrypt content before you send it out. As soon as there is any unencrypted data on an external service, you've (theoretically) lost it to the grubby paws of said flunkies.

Or at least that's what I think (crypto experts of HN, feel free to correct and/or chastise me).

Re: Dear USA, my data has left your building

#55

As much as I love Synology NAS, I wouldn't trust it for keeping what's essentially my entire life (email, photos, music, files, everything). The author has a backup system which involves two laptops, a workstation and a separate file drive. However, at the bottom he/she adds "I will probably add an extra external drive to the mix and try to keep that off site." My advice: do it. Now. Murphy's law states that a flood/…

free cloud services!=backup

No, you're absolutely right. And I didn't state they are, nor that they are free. For backup purposes, I use my NAS, an external hard drive that I use off site, and Amazon Glacier for when things go really bad. (With Glacier, you pay mere pennies for storing gigabytes, but you pay a lot if you ever need the files).

What I meant is that the author is so focused on privacy issues that he/she forgets about redundancy.

Re: Dear USA, my data has left your building

#56

I recently deleted my Google+ profile. I have to say that Google is among the nice ones out there. They have a no-nonsense process with tools in place to export the data and delete accounts. Facebook/Quora make it really difficult to delete your data. It's ironic that it's easier to leave the good corporations than the bad ones.

Was your data actually deleted, or does Google still have it?

Re: Dear USA, my data has left your building

#58
post #22

Can anyone recommend a linux VPS host outside the US as an alternative to Linode or Digitalocean?

I'm a happy user of https://www.transip.eu/ (no other affiliation). Cheap and has a fast connection.

Look out for the prices, though: the discount showed is not permanent, just a first month promotion.

Re: Dear USA, my data has left your building

#59
post #5

Over the last month I have cancelled all our servers in US, setting up a new one this morning in Amsterdam One thing I am worried about is potential liability of having someone sueing us under data protection laws here in Ireland, claiming their data was inspected by US and we couldnt protect their privacy Here in Europe we get to have data protection commisioners and strong laws on the subject unlike across the pond…

One thing I don't entirely understand is whether having an EU-based server provided by an US company (Rackspace, AWS, Digital Ocean, you name it) makes any difference at all.

Re: Dear USA, my data has left your building

#60

It's a bit naive to believe that after Google may have deleted your emails (no good reason to trust them, I'm afraid), the NSA also no longer has access to them. They picked them up as they arrived at or left your Gmail account and will keep them forever.

But may not get his future email and future data, which is still much better to him than if he stayed with Google.

may not being the key phrase. Thankfully for the NSA, they can add to his profile this how-to on how he's managing his data moving forward.
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