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Apple Unveils The iPhone 5S

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Re: Apple Unveils The iPhone 5S

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Post by _ea1k »

allsystemsgo wrote: post #30
knodi wrote: post #20

This is what I don't like about apple the 5s $199 version has 16GB and the 5c $199 version has 32GB. They should have at-lease giving us 24GB for 5s $199. Apple being apple trying to keep margins high. The new colors kind of suck but great for high school girls.

It took quite some time for me to fill up the 16GB. I'm more of a power user now, so I'll be upgrading to the 32GB but, for most 16GB is plenty.

In my experience, power users need less storage than non-power users. How many novices have you seen with 16GB nearly full of photos and videos?

Re: Apple Unveils The iPhone 5S

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Post by danabramov »

rdl wrote: post #34

I'm sad it seems most likely the 5S will be fingerprint OR pin/passphrase to unlock. I can imagine situations at borders or in interactions with police where compelling a fingerprint swipe is physically easier than compelling a passphrase entry, and I think it is also legally easier to compel later. The ideal would be a 4-8 digit numeric PIN with strong "10 tries and it dies" plus fingerprint, and as a backup, a full…

Tim Carmody's tweet suggests you can still use the numeric code:

https://twitter.com/tcarmody/status/377495998727483392

Re: Apple Unveils The iPhone 5S

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Post by rodedwards »

Better photos, TouchID, snappier performance -- a traditional incremental Apple upgrade befitting the "S" moniker.

I've long been wondering when/if Apple would take on NFC and things like payments more aggressively. I get the feeling that they're going to skip NFC entirely, and that TouchID is going to be a large part of processing transactions without the need for any physical device interaction (swipe/tap/bump).

Right now I've got that hazy tip-of-iceberg feeling that Apple is probably in the early phases of executing some grand vision that I can't yet see the entirety of.

And that's why Apple continues to be the leading consumer device co: who else out there has "vision?" Google is the closest, but IMHO Android has always felt reactionary, not visionary.

Re: Apple Unveils The iPhone 5S

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Post by sdoowpilihp »

climatewarrior2 wrote: post #18

The NSA now will have a database of everybody's fingerprints!! Great :D

First of all, this is not a constructive comment. Second, they explicitly said that the fingerprint never leaves the phone (and believe me, people will be looking to verify. It would be a huge boon to a persons career to be the person that caught apple in that lie).

Re: Apple Unveils The iPhone 5S

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Post by lewispollard »

danabramov wrote: post #26
hershel wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even after the device is out it would be very hard(if not impossible) to verify it doesn't send fingerprint or hash of fingerprint online. There's plenty of places they can hide this.

Don't you think this would be a huge scandal, if it was revealed? Considering they specifically say it is not uploaded? Just saying. Why would they take such a risk?

The entire NSA thing to date is a huge scandal, and yet no one (outside of the tech community) seems to really care... Not many people are closing their accounts associated with NSA complicit companies.

Re: Apple Unveils The iPhone 5S

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Post by lewispollard »

danabramov wrote: post #26
hershel wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even after the device is out it would be very hard(if not impossible) to verify it doesn't send fingerprint or hash of fingerprint online. There's plenty of places they can hide this.

Don't you think this would be a huge scandal, if it was revealed? Considering they specifically say it is not uploaded? Just saying. Why would they take such a risk?

The entire NSA thing to date is a huge scandal, and yet no one (outside of the tech community) seems to really care... Not many people are closing their accounts associated with NSA complicit companies.

Re: Apple Unveils The iPhone 5S

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Post by lewispollard »

danabramov wrote: post #26
hershel wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even after the device is out it would be very hard(if not impossible) to verify it doesn't send fingerprint or hash of fingerprint online. There's plenty of places they can hide this.

Don't you think this would be a huge scandal, if it was revealed? Considering they specifically say it is not uploaded? Just saying. Why would they take such a risk?

The entire NSA thing to date is a huge scandal, and yet no one (outside of the tech community) seems to really care... Not many people are closing their accounts associated with NSA complicit companies.

Re: Apple Unveils The iPhone 5S

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Post by rdl »

danabramov wrote: post #52
rdl wrote: post #34

I'm sad it seems most likely the 5S will be fingerprint OR pin/passphrase to unlock. I can imagine situations at borders or in interactions with police where compelling a fingerprint swipe is physically easier than compelling a passphrase entry, and I think it is also legally easier to compel later. The ideal would be a 4-8 digit numeric PIN with strong "10 tries and it dies" plus fingerprint, and as a backup, a full…

Tim Carmody's tweet suggests you can still use the numeric code: https://twitter.com/tcarmody/status/377495998727483392

That's even worse.

I want to be able to set, at my option: 1) PIN-only

2) FPR + PIN (where you must use iCloud to get in if your FPR doesn't read)

3) for morons, FPR only.

I currently use a much stronger than 4 digit numeric PIN, but it is honestly a pain. If I could set both the FPR and PIN as required to get in, I could use a shorter PIN. If I'm allowed to bypass the FPR entirely, the PIN has to remain as strong as it is now.

(What I'd also like is something better than hardcoded timeouts for requiring the PIN. Like "require FPR every single time you unlock, require PIN+FPR if it has been <30 minutes or <120 minutes but no movement on accelerometer OR connected in my car, require FPR+icloud passphrase otherwise". Fully configurable by the user.)

Re: Apple Unveils The iPhone 5S

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Post by makmanalp »

davidcollantes wrote: post #29
alxbrun wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My "is it new?" test works this way: how would I explain what's new to my father (who is 74 years old and knows not much about tech). A7, M7, iOS 7, better camera and flash: not much to say. Touch ID OK that's new, but that's not much.

I am sure you can find a way to explain, it is not that hard. Touch ID is a lot! No more password entering on iTunes. A godsend for someone who has a 26 characters passphrase like me.

If you have a 26 character passphrase, then how are you having an easy time trusting the fingerprint auth?

Re: Apple Unveils The iPhone 5S

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Post by swamp40 »

I was really hoping for NFC support - sigh.

I do love the fingerprint sensor and the intelligent auto-focusing features, though.

Blurry smartphone pictures are so ubiquitous these days.

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