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Re: That Time I Made A Website

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Post by lobotryas »

bliti wrote: post #47
mb_72 wrote: post #43

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Well .... making a website != programming. Maybe it's because I'm old (41, starting programming on a TRS-80 in the early 80s), but I'm astonished sometimes at how much fuss is made over such relatively minor achievements. This is lowering the bar on what stories are 'interesting', and - honestly - turns me off coming to HN because of the (for me) lower signal : noise ratio. And I disagree that accessibility is so imp…

The great wall of China started as one measly block. Do we undermine the effort of the labourers that pushed it into place? It is just one rock. Not worthy of any praise. But we may be missing the bigger picture. What you call a minor achievement is in reality a big step towards becoming a programmer. The biggest block to programming is being courageous enough to dig into the source code. Be it markup, or else. Who a…

The point is not criticizing the achievements of others, but putting them in context of a greater whole. Creating your own website is great, but it's a tiny first step in a long journey. If's up to the individual to see how far they want to stick with it, but we should never mislead people by telling them that their achievements are greater than they really are.

Re: That Time I Made A Website

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Post by ulisesrmzroche »

tentacle wrote: post #41
aroman wrote: post #32

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I disagree. Franky, I think males would tend not to submit posts like this to HN, which is their loss. That she is female is not why this post was upvoted, it was upvoted because it was deemed to be of interest to the community.

I'm just seeing a pattern here. A friend posted my site here a while ago when I was starting programming. And it hit immediately the front page of HN. I received so many "I love you", "Marry me"-mails because of it. So I'm not exactly sure...

I'm a troll, so I've been joking around that HN is full of white knights for a while now (not your case in particular, don't remember that, but every other post written by a woman that hits the front page).

I didn't think anyone would send that sort of email, that's not even cool HN, just desperate.

Re: That Time I Made A Website

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Post by aestra »

tentacle wrote: post #8

If this site was made by a male you wouldn't even see it on the front page of HN. (=ｘェｘ=)

Why do you guys pursume these posts get upvoted because they were written by women?

Personally, I read and upvoted this post because it was well written, interesting, and was interesting to see through the eyes of a total beginner. The author's gender was not a factor in my vote nor my opinion of the blog post. I am a woman myself.

Re: That Time I Made A Website

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Post by wiml »

"Nobody has time for my fancy "overflow: scroll;" in a 600 x 600px box"

Seriously, with this one insight the author is ahead of a good third of the professional web designers out there.

Re: That Time I Made A Website

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Post by ShirtlessRod »

lobotryas wrote: post #51
bliti wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The great wall of China started as one measly block. Do we undermine the effort of the labourers that pushed it into place? It is just one rock. Not worthy of any praise. But we may be missing the bigger picture. What you call a minor achievement is in reality a big step towards becoming a programmer. The biggest block to programming is being courageous enough to dig into the source code. Be it markup, or else. Who a…

The point is not criticizing the achievements of others, but putting them in context of a greater whole. Creating your own website is great, but it's a tiny first step in a long journey. If's up to the individual to see how far they want to stick with it, but we should never mislead people by telling them that their achievements are greater than they really are.

Was anyone doing that here? Seemed like it was more of "good for you, here's some things to improve".

Re: That Time I Made A Website

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Post by C1D »

jfarmer wrote: post #46
C1D wrote: post #10

I don't understand the problem with the tag. It does the job and even though its deprecated its a long way away from being unsupported.

There's a few things worth responding to in your comment, some technical and non-technical, but both important for beginners to keep in mind. I assume you know most of what I'm going to say, so I'm pretending a student asked this. So, what's the problem with the tag? First, at the purely technical level, was deprecated in HTML4.01 and is not part of HTML5 at all. As far as I know browsers will still render it fine, b…

Wow. That was a very in depth explanation. Thank you.

I'm currently working on a very HTML/JS heavy open source project and a co-developer had included some center and bold tags in the code. I will instead replace them with em/strong and inline:center; since I would not like our project to be judged by our absense of "best practice".

Re: That Time I Made A Website

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Post by beering »

lobotryas wrote: post #51
bliti wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The great wall of China started as one measly block. Do we undermine the effort of the labourers that pushed it into place? It is just one rock. Not worthy of any praise. But we may be missing the bigger picture. What you call a minor achievement is in reality a big step towards becoming a programmer. The biggest block to programming is being courageous enough to dig into the source code. Be it markup, or else. Who a…

The point is not criticizing the achievements of others, but putting them in context of a greater whole. Creating your own website is great, but it's a tiny first step in a long journey. If's up to the individual to see how far they want to stick with it, but we should never mislead people by telling them that their achievements are greater than they really are.

I may be biased, but the amount of "putting them in their place" comments is disproportional to how much they overestimate themselves. I doubt Tiffany thinks that she's going to be debugging C++ for Google's [redacted] within the year, for example.

Others' accomplishments might seem tiny compared to where you are, but gradually realizing that there's always more to learn is part of the growing process. All of this "putting things into perspective" is perhaps unnecessary - when I got started, I certainly didn't (and couldn't) have had as wide of a perspective as I do now.

Re: That Time I Made A Website

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Post by yogo »

apricot13 wrote: post #44
eCa wrote: post #30

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No, please don't. This is about learning. Going through evolution of design from the ground up. Getting that joy that only comes when you do View Source and every single line is written by you.

Seconded, there should be a rule that says you must have tried to make everything included in bootstrap at least once yourself before your allowed to use it. Otherwise how will you learn? That way when you do use it you'll have the knowledge to use it properly (and hopefully within moderation) well and you'll appreciate how much easier it makes life that much more!

The same can apply to all frameworks and libraries, both front and back end.

Re: That Time I Made A Website

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Post by smarx »

teddynsnoopy wrote: post #5

Hi everyone, sorry it went down for a few minutes. I was hosting it on Dropbox but turns out that's not a good idea for HN traffic, so I switched to using a copy of it. Thanks for reading :)

Might I interest you in Site44? (I'm a founder.)

www.site44.com

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