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What happens when you sit at a desk for 13 years and also exercise

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Re: What happens when you sit at a desk for 13 years and also exercise

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post #11

Why not do both?

If using a standing desk sounds like a good idea to you and you have the means to afford one or build one, it couldn't hurt to do both. My argument was that I did not feel like it was necessary considering my progress with sitting and doing regular exercise.

Re: What happens when you sit at a desk for 13 years and also exercise

#52
post #38

Recently, there was an article in New Scientist about this[1]. Basically, if you sit for more than 6 hours a day, one hour of exercise a day doesn't undo the damage. The solution is to get up and move around often, i.e. every ~20 minutes or so. Exercise is still good even if you stand/move around often. And standing all day also has its problems, like others have mentioned. [1] http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg2…

Right, it isn't just that exercise is good for you but rather all the time spent not exercising is bad for you.

Exercise is still good, but it doesn't do magic if you live unhealthy the rest of the time.

(That being said, I wonder if the extreme types of workout many people promote is actually good, or if it does more damage than good in the long run. I guess some people believe that one extreme can out-weight another extreme.)

Re: What happens when you sit at a desk for 13 years and also exercise

#53

n of 1 != proof.

It's proof that it worked for me. Somebody of average genetics and physique that had a lot of the same problems that others complain about and in turn try standing desks. Sometimes it's best to just give it a shot and see how it works for you instead of trying to find reasons not to try it. :)

Re: What happens when you sit at a desk for 13 years and also exercise

#54
post #3

100% agree. Also a perk of living in a city (such as San Francisco) is I can walk EVERYWHERE, including work and I do. Like the OP, walking to and from work and hitting the gym most days has vastly improved my quality of life and it doesn't even take away from much of my evening. If you need something to get you motivated, grab a Fitbit tracker and/or scale and track yourself. It'll only work in the beginning, but if…

> Also a perk of living in a city (such as San Francisco)

How is it related to living in a city? At least in the Bay Area you can walk/cycle pretty much everywhere if your work is close enough to your job. And cycling in suburbs is usually safer/healthier than e.g. in San Francisco.

You're out of luck if your job is far from your home though. But one will have the same problem in city as well in that case.

Re: What happens when you sit at a desk for 13 years and also exercise

#55
post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Right, it isn't just that exercise is good for you but rather all the time spent not exercising is bad for you.

Exercise is still good , but it doesn't do magic if you live unhealthy the rest of the time. (That being said, I wonder if the extreme types of workout many people promote is actually good, or if it does more damage than good in the long run. I guess some people believe that one extreme can out-weight another extreme.)

Here's one answer:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Fixx

Quote: " "Jim" Fixx (April 23, 1932 – July 20, 1984) was the author of the 1977 best-selling book, The Complete Book of Running. He is credited with helping start America's fitness revolution, popularizing the sport of running and demonstrating the health benefits of regular jogging. Fixx died in 1984 at the age of 52."

Heart attack.

Re: What happens when you sit at a desk for 13 years and also exercise

#56

Recently, there was an article in New Scientist about this[1]. Basically, if you sit for more than 6 hours a day, one hour of exercise a day doesn't undo the damage. The solution is to get up and move around often, i.e. every ~20 minutes or so. Exercise is still good even if you stand/move around often. And standing all day also has its problems, like others have mentioned. [1] http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg2…

The problem with sitting for long periods of time, or remaining in any static position really, is that as muscles fatigue more stress is put on joints and bones. Having more muscle and strength helps significantly, but not all forms of exercise develops muscle and strength adaptations equally.

It would depend on the exercise. If you by "exercise" mean superflous human movement for the purpose of wasting excess energy, I would agree it doesn't do much to counter sitting the rest of the day, it's basically just a break from sitting.

If you instead mean methodical heavy barbell training for the purpose of invoking physiological adaptations in the form of increased muscle and strength, it would probably do a great deal to offset sitting for the rest of the day, especially coupled with the increased awareness and understanding of spinal positioning that comes with lifting weights.

Most of the time when people talk of "exercise", they mean the kind that don't do much for muscle and strength development (mainly the aerobic kind or light anaerobic work), but a lot of people actually do the kind that does.

Re: What happens when you sit at a desk for 13 years and also exercise

#57
post #50

I would strongly suggest anyone looking at this and saying they don't have the time to invest in this to also consider the mental benefits that exercise brings. I don't feel I have time (which I know is wrong) and I particularly do not like gyms, but I cycle to work (2 miles) and on the way home I'll take a detour and add an extra 5-10 miles to my trip home. It clears the cobwebs. Cycling can be very meditative as we…

Indeed. I completely understand feeling like there isn't enough time to do it.

Other than my 8-10 hour days at work, I have a teenage daughter, a wife and two dogs I have to attend to. I practice guitar daily, practice martial arts weekly, kayak regularly, read/study daily for my job, started learning more about F.A.C.S and Body Language and like to get in some gaming every now and then with the daughter.

I've found that I have at least 30 minutes I can spare even with that load. It's not much, but it's better than nothing sometimes. It's awesome you can find the time with your cycling! Keep it up!

Re: What happens when you sit at a desk for 13 years and also exercise

#58
post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Where does it say that he used machines?

It doesn't. :) I use none. I workout in my garage with a pull-up bar, a heavy bag and a barbell.

Can I recommend you also fix some gymnastic rings to your garage ceiling (or a branch of a tree outdoors, if the ceiling is too low)? They are cheap, and provide incredible challenging (and fun!) workouts.

Even basic things like push ups become challenging again on the rings. And you'll be so proud when you work up to your first muscle up.

Re: What happens when you sit at a desk for 13 years and also exercise

#59
post #56

Recently, there was an article in New Scientist about this[1]. Basically, if you sit for more than 6 hours a day, one hour of exercise a day doesn't undo the damage. The solution is to get up and move around often, i.e. every ~20 minutes or so. Exercise is still good even if you stand/move around often. And standing all day also has its problems, like others have mentioned. [1] http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg2…

The problem with sitting for long periods of time, or remaining in any static position really, is that as muscles fatigue more stress is put on joints and bones. Having more muscle and strength helps significantly, but not all forms of exercise develops muscle and strength adaptations equally. It would depend on the exercise. If you by "exercise" mean superflous human movement for the purpose of wasting excess energy…

I love my barbell, but I'd still like to get my standing desk back.

Use both, if you can.

Re: What happens when you sit at a desk for 13 years and also exercise

#60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The problem is that there is no evidence that suggest standing in front of a computer screen helps at all in those situations as well. You're still stationary. You aren't moving. Moving your feet around below you to adjust the weight on your legs does nothing for your cardiovascular system. Unfortunately, as people who are tied to their computer screens for most of the day, we have very few options. One is to exercis…

Unfortunately, as people who are tied to their computer screens for most of the day, we have very few options. Treadmill desks have been growing in popularity lately for this reason.

If the colleague next to me starts using a thread mill with his standing desk, I'll shoot him in the face. With a nerf gun. Like the violent man I am.

Don't need more distractions at the office, damn'it!

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