ElementaryOs Luna released • Hacker News Board

Re: ElementaryOs Luna released

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Post by 10098 » Sun, Aug 11, 2013, 2:26 AM UTC

manamana wrote: post #6

StavrosK wrote: post #2

What is this? The landing page looks interesting but light on explanations. Has anyone used it? How is it?

elementary is what Ubuntu should have been. Basically, they've built a new desktop environment from the ground up with focus on design and usability. This the first release of the DE (first release was based on Gnome), so it's still a bit immature, but there's already a big following.

> they've built a new desktop environment from the ground up

by ripping off osx as much as possible.

Re: ElementaryOs Luna released

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Post by adrianlmm » Sun, Aug 11, 2013, 2:35 AM UTC

Congratulations to the ElementaryOs team, I recognize the effort you have put developing your own tools in a great language like Vala.

I don't believe that you try to mimic OSX because I have used it and they are not as similar, I think the people say it because they see the elegance you have put on it.

Re: ElementaryOs Luna released

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Post by knodi » Sun, Aug 11, 2013, 2:36 AM UTC

Very cool, can't wait to use it. What good is its MacBook Air/Pro hardware support?

Re: ElementaryOs Luna released

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Post by wellementary » Sun, Aug 11, 2013, 2:40 AM UTC

n0on3 wrote: post #40

yes, right, the world definitely need another linux distro that fails at pretending being even close to the reasons why people actually buy and use Macs and PCs. Bah.

Have you actually used it?

Re: ElementaryOs Luna released

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Post by computer » Sun, Aug 11, 2013, 2:40 AM UTC

frozenport wrote: post #46

nosefrog wrote: post #16

Mark my words: elementary OS is going to be big. I was on a beta version of elementary OS a couple months ago, and it was like a breath of fresh air. elementary OS sets out to settle the number one complaint casual users have of other Linux distributions: design. Other Linux distributions look like a mish-mash of a bunch of different designs by many different people. elementary OS has a beautiful, striking, and (most…

I have never heard anybody say Linux doesn't look sexy. Remember when we were comparing Compiz to Windows XP, or Enlightenment to Windows 2000? Ubuntu is one of the few OSs that can pull a black theme. Linux problems include: 1. Hardware compatibility 2. Office compatibility (also Adobe + games) 3. Easy to mess up your system with no hope of fixing it I don't see how any of these address the problems with Linux. I ru…

Note that if they position this as competitor to OS X instead of Windows, then GNU/Linux and Elementary OS actually have better hardware compatibility (broadly) than OS X.

Re: ElementaryOs Luna released

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Post by harveycabaguio » Sun, Aug 11, 2013, 2:42 AM UTC

sciurus wrote: post #44

nosefrog wrote: post #16

Mark my words: elementary OS is going to be big. I was on a beta version of elementary OS a couple months ago, and it was like a breath of fresh air. elementary OS sets out to settle the number one complaint casual users have of other Linux distributions: design. Other Linux distributions look like a mish-mash of a bunch of different designs by many different people. elementary OS has a beautiful, striking, and (most…

"elementary OS sets out to settle the number one complaint casual users have of other Linux distributions: design." In this regard Elementary seems to be part of a larger trend in the linux desktop world, rather than unique. GNOME 3 has been heavily influenced by designers, to the point where there's been developer backlash. [0] Canonical employs thirty people to work on the design of Ubuntu and their other products,…

It's not just Linux, design is becoming really important in user tech. Google, Microsoft, etc have recognized the importance of design and are putting emphasis in it.

Re: ElementaryOs Luna released

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Post by harveycabaguio » Sun, Aug 11, 2013, 2:45 AM UTC

jared314 wrote: post #45

From their blog post about window controls [0], it sounds like they are taking the iOS approach to application close / minimize, but I can't find any technical description of how they plan to accomplish that without forcing applications to implement additional event handlers, or something fancy with preserving memory and file handles. [0] http://elementaryos.org/journal/whats-still-window-controls

For now the apps elementary have made try to save their state. Window size/position, auto-save in Scratch, Noise continues to play music even if you closed it.

Re: ElementaryOs Luna released

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Post by ekianjo » Sun, Aug 11, 2013, 3:00 AM UTC

pdknsk wrote: post #29

I have a question to the developers. If they like Mac OS X so much, why not just use it, rather than clone? I don't understand it. To make it slightly less obvious, they could've at least picked a different desktop picture. PS. I'm happy they chose Super Hexagon to show gaming.

Did you even bother to open the page? It says in big letters they like their OS to be OPEN.

Re: ElementaryOs Luna released

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Post by jorgecastillo » Sun, Aug 11, 2013, 3:02 AM UTC

nosefrog wrote: post #16

Mark my words: elementary OS is going to be big. I was on a beta version of elementary OS a couple months ago, and it was like a breath of fresh air. elementary OS sets out to settle the number one complaint casual users have of other Linux distributions: design. Other Linux distributions look like a mish-mash of a bunch of different designs by many different people. elementary OS has a beautiful, striking, and (most…

I am no Ubuntu fan (I use openSUSE) but there is no way that this distribution is better for new users than Ubuntu. The mind share Ubuntu has is huge as much as it pains us Ubuntu is the reference when it comes to desktop Linux.

Re: ElementaryOs Luna released

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Post by wellementary » Sun, Aug 11, 2013, 3:08 AM UTC

Background: have been using the early (read: 'unstable') betas of eOS for quite sometime now (almost 1 year in fact!)

I have gone so far as having installed it onto actual live / production (networked) environments (who were previosly running M$ junk).

Apart from a few minor quibbles (most of which were easily fixed) it has been absolutely flawless!!

The biggest testament to the design philosophy / directions that these guys have taken is, in my opinion, the simple fact that I was able to transition non-technical end users from using Windows to using eOS (and therefore Linux) in a live SME environment without any downtime and very, very minimal training! Try doing that with some other OS's or distros!! And this was with the beta/unfinished version!!

Given how well that went, I have also now managed to get it installed successfully on at least 4 Macs (iMacs, MacBook Pros and a recent MacBook Air). And I didn't even bother with rEFIT or any dual booting shenanigans.....I literally downloaded the ISO....burnt it to a CD ....booted the Mac from the CD ans clicked "Install Elementarty OS"..... and in about 10 mins flat I have brand new, screaming FAST, lightweight and beautifully thought-out Linux OS running perfectly!

Oh, and just for the record....as someone with a background in design and who has used every flavour of Apple hardware and software since the AppleII 'Euro Plus' (the one with Steve W's signature on the box!;) .....this is NOT a simple 'knock off' of OSX or anything else. The people who say this I would wager have either not used it so are basing it off a few screen grabs which tell you nothing..or, just have no idea about UI/UX whatsoever. As someone who has been using this day-in day-out now for quite some time.....this already is way ahead of Apple in a lot of respects (and wherever it isn't yet, I have total confidence that the eOS team will keep improving it!).

This is not a paid advert, I have absolutely no affiliation with this project, I just thought I should put my 2 cents in so hopefully some others can benefit from my experiences with this GREAT project!!!

Keep it up guys

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