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Extra Virginity: The Sublime and Scandalous World of Olive Oil (2012)

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Re: Extra Virginity: The Sublime and Scandalous World of Olive Oil (2012)

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Does anyone have any tips for finding quality olive oil? The only way I've had success is to buy inexpensive single-source stuff, even if it's inexpensive and non-Italian. Best olive oils I've had were single-sourced from Spain; $2 from a discount store. Maybe no-one wants to fake non-Italian oil?

Yes: order it from Zingermans online. Zingermans is a mail-order deli in Ann Arbor, a sort of culinary Mecca, and they specialize in sourcing lots of interesting olive oils. Their descriptions of those olive oils is pretty much dead on.

Get a couple Paesano loaves to go with it (throw the extra loaves in your freezer). I don't know what it is about that bread --- I think they mill some of their own flour --- but it is crazy and addictive.

Well, shit. This thread just cost me $400.

Re: Extra Virginity: The Sublime and Scandalous World of Olive Oil (2012)

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Best olive oil is Greek. Italian or Spanish ones are nowhere near the quality of Greek. In Greece more than 80% of total production is extra virgin while in Italy the percentage is less than 40% and in Spain 20%. Italians buy bulk olive oil from Greece and they mix it with their own oils to raise the quality. There are small brands that offer high quality extra virgin oil and I guess you could look some of them at yo…

Seconding this. It also tastes somewhat different, which is a matter of preference admittedly. I personally love the typical flavor of oil from Kalamata olives, which makes up a large part of the Greek-labeled production (i.e. bottled as Greek olive oil, rather than exported for blending). Greek marketing and distribution has been poor, however, and very slowly improving. The traditional place to buy it in the U.S. h…

Nobody that I know buys 5-liter tins of oil (I'm italian) and I wouldn't even know where to buy them. The most common format is 1 liter, followed by 0.75

Re: Extra Virginity: The Sublime and Scandalous World of Olive Oil (2012)

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Personally, I only use grapeseed oil. I've tried olive, it's too heavy. Tried canola, it's okay. But grapeseed is amazing. It has no particular flavor, you could drink it and not become sick from the heavy load that typical oils will give you, etc.

Re: Extra Virginity: The Sublime and Scandalous World of Olive Oil (2012)

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Seconding this. It also tastes somewhat different, which is a matter of preference admittedly. I personally love the typical flavor of oil from Kalamata olives, which makes up a large part of the Greek-labeled production (i.e. bottled as Greek olive oil, rather than exported for blending). Greek marketing and distribution has been poor, however, and very slowly improving. The traditional place to buy it in the U.S. h…

Nobody that I know buys 5-liter tins of oil (I'm italian) and I wouldn't even know where to buy them. The most common format is 1 liter, followed by 0.75

Apparently I have bad memory, because 3-L is what I was thinking of, not 5-L. I'm not Italian myself, but my Italian landlord brings these kinds of things (not the same brand, but same format) regularly: http://www.colavita.com/store/images/products/EV_Oils/Med-Ti...

Most households in Greece will have something like that, and they're easy to find in any country if you go to a Turkish, Greek, or Arab supermarket. I could be wrong about Italy.

Re: Extra Virginity: The Sublime and Scandalous World of Olive Oil (2012)

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Does anyone have any tips for finding quality olive oil? The only way I've had success is to buy inexpensive single-source stuff, even if it's inexpensive and non-Italian. Best olive oils I've had were single-sourced from Spain; $2 from a discount store. Maybe no-one wants to fake non-Italian oil?

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Re: Extra Virginity: The Sublime and Scandalous World of Olive Oil (2012)

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Personally, I only use grapeseed oil. I've tried olive, it's too heavy. Tried canola, it's okay. But grapeseed is amazing. It has no particular flavor, you could drink it and not become sick from the heavy load that typical oils will give you, etc.

+1

For cooking, grape seed is the best. I've worked in alot of top restaurants, for cooking they use grape seed exclusively.

Extra virgin olive oil should only be used when you want the specific flavour it provides (ie. drizzled on things like pizza, pasta, bread, etc...).

Re: Extra Virginity: The Sublime and Scandalous World of Olive Oil (2012)

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Personally, I only use grapeseed oil. I've tried olive, it's too heavy. Tried canola, it's okay. But grapeseed is amazing. It has no particular flavor, you could drink it and not become sick from the heavy load that typical oils will give you, etc.

I cook in grapeseed, but use olive oil for every raw application.

Re: Extra Virginity: The Sublime and Scandalous World of Olive Oil (2012)

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Once a year I get some 5 liters of cold pressed virgin organic olive oil. I know it´s origin for sure because it comes from a private guy doing his own stuff on a small cold press (he is not for quantity just for the best quality for his family, it´s a hobby for him). I agree with you that you won´t find anithing similar in a store: It´s more acid, spicier, deep green, clowdy (it´s unfiltered) and very very tasty (it…

It baffles me how people are not puzzled how the "extra virgin" olive oil they use doesn't taste anything like olives. I mean, c'mon people, have you never tasted olives? How do you expect the "unadulterated" extract to have none of that flavor at all?

It baffles me that people expect to buy "extra virgin olive oil" in canola- oil- sized- jugs and expect it to have huge flavor; I get that it's frustrating that the "extra virgin" label has been diluted to meaninglessness, but really, just treat cheap extra virgin oil as if it was "pure olive oil" (saute with it, for instance) and seek out specific oils you really like.

Serious good olive oils all taste very different, so the whole idea of them being interchangeably good is a bit weird.

Re: Extra Virginity: The Sublime and Scandalous World of Olive Oil (2012)

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I use olive oil regularly in my cooking and now, I don't know what to think. I'm curious why the original article wasn't the one submitted (though it's inserted at the bottom of that entry). http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2012/jan/13/extra-virginity-...

If you're cooking with it, it doesn't much matter. Heat very rapidly destroys the flavor of good olive oil.

Personally: stories like this should read as good news; they mean you have a lot to gain for dorking around with new oils.

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My parents retired to Italy a number of years ago, to a place with a hundred or so olive trees in the garden, and each November some of us head over to pick the olives (much to the amusement of the locals, who think we're crazy to do agricultural work in our spare time) and take them to a nearby pressing plant (where you can wander around and see the process to make sure your harvest isn't being mixed up with other,…

Once a year I get some 5 liters of cold pressed virgin organic olive oil. I know it´s origin for sure because it comes from a private guy doing his own stuff on a small cold press (he is not for quantity just for the best quality for his family, it´s a hobby for him). I agree with you that you won´t find anithing similar in a store: It´s more acid, spicier, deep green, clowdy (it´s unfiltered) and very very tasty (it…

sounds freaking amazing.
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