Apple Developer System Status

Post by jrochkind1 » Thu, Jul 25, 2013, 3:34 AM UTC

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What's interesting about this rebuild is it tell us Apple tightly couples it's services. I would except at Apple's scale they would have followed a Service Oriented Architecture. This doesn't seem to be the case at all. And whatever happened to static hosting for videos/downloads.

As of now right now (~1374712460) there are two systems that are online: iTunes Connect and Bug Reporter. And both seem to use the cannot-be-killed* WebObjects. You can clearly see that in the URLs as they mention "WebObjects" and end in ".woa" (assuming it means Web Objects Application). *I've no idea what WebObjects are but I've heard people poke fun at their mention. Would be interesting if someone had more detail…

Post by xuki » Thu, Jul 25, 2013, 3:43 AM UTC

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I successfully installed the XCode command line tools on a new machine yesterday via the Preferences dialog box in XCode. The web installation route is definitely unavailable, but the Preferences route appears to continue to work.

If you don't yet have XCode though... out of luck? Man, I'm glad I bought and setup my new mac two weeks ago, and not one week ago.

Post by caycep » Thu, Jul 25, 2013, 4:05 AM UTC

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As of now right now (~1374712460) there are two systems that are online: iTunes Connect and Bug Reporter. And both seem to use the cannot-be-killed* WebObjects. You can clearly see that in the URLs as they mention "WebObjects" and end in ".woa" (assuming it means Web Objects Application). *I've no idea what WebObjects are but I've heard people poke fun at their mention. Would be interesting if someone had more detail…

WebObjects is kind of like Rails, but 20 years earlier. (Seriously, it's actually very similar to Rails, in it's bones. I don't know if dhh had seen WebObjects, or they just both had seen some smalltalk mvc framework) They inherited it from NeXT, and it seriously was really ahead of it's time originally. Hell, it was a technically competent and competitive web framework through, oh, 2002 or 2004, maybe even a few yea…

Post by plorkyeran » Thu, Jul 25, 2013, 4:23 AM UTC

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In 1993, you were almost certainly going to have to pay money to write software on or for Mac OS. In 2013, you most certainly do not have to pay money on or for Mac OS X. Xcode is free-as-in-beer. You can install this if you want to avoid Apple's tooling: https://github.com/kennethreitz/osx-gcc-installer Ruby, Python, Perl and other interpreters come standard with OS X. As does a terminal. Things are better, not wors…

>In 2013, you most certainly do not have to pay money on or for Mac OS X. You have to join the Apple Developer Program, which costs $99/year, in order to distribute software that will run on OS X with default Gatekeeper settings. The registration for that program is currently down.

Post by glhaynes » Thu, Jul 25, 2013, 4:57 AM UTC

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As of now right now (~1374712460) there are two systems that are online: iTunes Connect and Bug Reporter. And both seem to use the cannot-be-killed* WebObjects. You can clearly see that in the URLs as they mention "WebObjects" and end in ".woa" (assuming it means Web Objects Application). *I've no idea what WebObjects are but I've heard people poke fun at their mention. Would be interesting if someone had more detail…

WebObjects is a web application framework. It's OLD old. It's about ten years older than Ruby on Rails, putting it on par with PHP and Ruby itself. NeXT made it and Apple decided to make it free. It was Objective-C and is now Java.