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Re: Switching from Gmail to FastMail

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Post by jasonlotito »

waxjar wrote: post #14
adestefan wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fastmail is owned by Opera a Norwegian company. Nice try though to inject a completely worthless comment.

Their servers are located in the US according to the article.

The GGP started off by saying:

> American company…

Then, noticing the critical error, the GP said:

> Fastmail is owned by Opera a Norwegian company.

Replying to the American company part.

> You said: Their servers are located in the US according to the article.

So, the servers location have nothing to do with whether the company is American or not. And while that might have a bearing on certain facets of the topic as a whole, it's meaningless in this context. Basically, what you said does not change anything.

Re: Switching from Gmail to FastMail

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Post by masnick »

dochtman wrote: post #45

I've been trying FastMail for the past two months or so and have been very impressed; it's actually better than GMail in many ways. Most importantly to me, it seems to be quite a bit faster than GMail for me. One problem I've had is with their spam filtering. I've marked everything spammy as Spam (some 800 messages so far), but I can't figure out how to get things marked as non-spam (so that the personal database get…

If you use a custom Sieve script, you can definitely whitelist certain addresses, domains, subjects, body text, etc. Google "fastmail sieve" for more info on this.

Also, if you haven't talked to support about this, I'd definitely recommend it. They've always been super helpful with me.

Re: Switching from Gmail to FastMail

#54

Post by steveklabnik »

nly wrote: post #28
bowlofpetunias wrote: post #18

> their servers are in New York For us as a European business, that's a dealbreaker. It's not that we are completely paranoid and migrating off of American systems in a big hurry, but moving forward, not in the US and not owned by an American company is a requirement for any new service we use. Even if we didn't care, we have to take into account our clients, and "no data under US control" has become not just a selli…

You're naive if you think hosting in Europe means you're necessarily any safer.

It doesn't matter if clients are naive or not, it matters if they have a checkbook.

Re: Switching from Gmail to FastMail

#55

Post by Kurts »

gulbrandr wrote: post #37
Kurts wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They're not "sneaking ads as email": http://googlesystem.blogspot.com/2013/06/ads-in-gmails-promo...

This is not an official source.

I'm pointing to that they're not a new encounter, and that they are clearly delineated as ads.

Re: Switching from Gmail to FastMail

#56

Post by cpursley »

bcvbcvbcv wrote: post #36
cpursley wrote: post #21

What's the point of switching to an inferior email service if their servers are still under US jurisdiction? Might as well stick with Gmail and suffer the adds and NSA spying.

The point is to not support a company that does things you dont like. But if you dont feel strongly about issues such as privacy, of course you dont see the point.

That's the thing -- I do feel strongly about privacy. That's why I don't see the point in switching to another US based service. Better to use a European or Asian provider or roll your own.

Re: Switching from Gmail to FastMail

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Post by jrkelly »

ronaldx wrote: post #47
djim wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

i pay for my gmail (google apps) so I don't have any ads.

Is there anything (for example in the T&Cs) that stops Google from creeping ads to paying customers in the future? I bet not.

Yeah, this is the problem. I pay for Hulu but there is no way to get out the ads. Google is going for an interrupt-based ad model here so you should expect it in the paid version too.

Re: Switching from Gmail to FastMail

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Post by Karunamon »

masnick wrote: post #31
warcode wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or just, you know, block the ads for a fraction of the effort.

With what? I _do_ care about running random plugins in my browser that update in the background. There's nothing stopping a malicious plugin from scraping stuff out of your email, and I feel like _that_ is a legitimate security concern!

>I _do_ care about running random plugins in my browser that update in the background.

Then turn that function off [1]. There's no more security threat from well-known browser plugins from Mozilla's site than well-known packages from your OS's apt repo. And both are open source.

[1] http://imgur.com/tivq9o8

Re: Switching from Gmail to FastMail

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Post by johnpowell »

vermontdevil wrote: post #44
johnpowell wrote: post #38

I installed http://www.iredmail.org/ on a five buck a month Droplet at DigitalOcean around six months ago. Seems to work great and I control it. I never use Roundcube. I use IMAP from the built in Mail.app on OS X. There is even a tutorial to set everything up. https://www.digitalocean.com/community/articles/how-to-insta...

What about spam filtering?

I maybe get around one spam message a month. And it is always someone trying to sell me web design services.

Re: Switching from Gmail to FastMail

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Post by iandundas »

nly wrote: post #28
bowlofpetunias wrote: post #18

> their servers are in New York For us as a European business, that's a dealbreaker. It's not that we are completely paranoid and migrating off of American systems in a big hurry, but moving forward, not in the US and not owned by an American company is a requirement for any new service we use. Even if we didn't care, we have to take into account our clients, and "no data under US control" has become not just a selli…

You're naive if you think hosting in Europe means you're necessarily any safer.

Well that's how it would seem, in the wake of the Snowden revelations.
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