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Michael Hastings Sent Panicked Email Hours Before Car Crash

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Re: Michael Hastings Sent Panicked Email Hours Before Car Crash

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Or that he was paranoid and thought he was being chased.

Or he was surreptitiously exposed to a mind-altering substance that made him paranoid, thinking he was being chased!

Or maybe the tree was drunk and traveling too fast.

Re: Michael Hastings Sent Panicked Email Hours Before Car Crash

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Yeah, we really don't know. But I'm extremely uncomfortable by the fact that foul play is a real possibility. We already know that the federal government is operating largely in secret and without regard to the law (their insistence that are indeed following their own secret set of laws doesn't provide me much solace). We already know that various press organizations have been wiretapped. I feel like I've woken up in…

Foul play is always a possibility, but it takes evidence to make it real. All we have now is a car crash, a reporter working on a story, and an email. There are lots of car crashes, and lots of reporters working on big stories--many on the same stories Hastings was pursuing. We can't rule out foul play but I'm not ready, personally, to rule it in either. There's just not enough there.

Is it known what story he was pursuing?

Re: Michael Hastings Sent Panicked Email Hours Before Car Crash

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while this story is about a week old and got lost in all this nsa nonsense, listen to what mr. hastings said before his death. even on tv. i am german and i can tell you that a mercedes benz DOES NOT just blow up and spit its engine 100yd down the street. the car wasn't even really against the tree... sometimes you just need to apply a little grain of common sense, ppl.

I never even heard of Michael Hasting's death before today, so I don't have an opinion yet, but I find it hilarious that someone who is implying that a conspiracy is at work here is telling everyone to "apply a little grain of common sense". Conspiracy theories are not common sense.

Re: Michael Hastings Sent Panicked Email Hours Before Car Crash

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I think given the fact that the US is literally Nazi Germany Literally is metaphorically literally? I hate it when people abuse language like that, even though usage dictates conventions.

Not to mention the US is also not metaphorically Nazi Germany. There's bad shit going on, but to equivocate the current state of the US to the Third Reich demonstrates either a supremely poor understanding of history, or hyperbolic melodrama, or both.

Actually, comparisons to Soviet or Nazi Germany work against their purpose. If the United States turns into a totalitarian state, it will look nothing like the instances of totalitarian regimes we have learned from textbooks. It will take a much more familiar and understandable form, not very different from how things look today.

In most totalitarian states, life goes on like it usually does. It's just the power distribution that changes. This should scare people a lot more than it does.

Re: Michael Hastings Sent Panicked Email Hours Before Car Crash

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This first question that comes to mind is what was he doing driving at 4:30 in the morning. His friends describe him as a "grandma diver" so why was he driving so fast and blowing red lights on a residential street? Did he ever display this type of behaviour before? Another question is.. how does a well made car burst into flames so quickly.

> how does a well made car burst into flames so quickly? I always wonder about this, it's not like a car fire is anything like hollywood makes it out to be.

The fact that movies prefer to show a big dramatic explosion in a fictional context does not mean that cars can't catch fire in real life.

http://www.usfa.fema.gov/statistics/reports/vehicles.shtm

Re: Michael Hastings Sent Panicked Email Hours Before Car Crash

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Anybody read through http://www.autosec.org/pubs/cars-usenixsec2011.pdf already? My car-tech knowledge is way to rudimentary to get a better idea on that stuff.

Well, page 6 sounds a lot like the mysterious magic car openers the police have been seeing (compromise the CAN bus through wireless device exploits, use CAN to unlock the doors). [From the PDF:] To be clear, for every vulnerability we demonstrate, we are able to obtain complete control over the vehicle’s systems. The latest Fast and Furious movie employes magnetically attached exploit devices that lock the ABS syste…

> The latest Fast and Furious movie employes magnetically attached exploit devices that lock the ABS system on a single wheel at speed, causing the car to immediately pull hard in that direction.

Are you seriously citing an action movie to support a point about how easy this would be?

Re: Michael Hastings Sent Panicked Email Hours Before Car Crash

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Another possibility is that he had a nervous breakdown or substance abuse episode, leading to both the paranoid emails and the irrational vehicle operations. Obviously I'm not saying that's the case, but the extremely irrational driving goes fits a theory of paranoid delusions (brought on by any number of mechanisms), just as the hacked car system goes with about to uncover something big.

Yeah, we really don't know. But I'm extremely uncomfortable by the fact that foul play is a real possibility. We already know that the federal government is operating largely in secret and without regard to the law (their insistence that are indeed following their own secret set of laws doesn't provide me much solace). We already know that various press organizations have been wiretapped. I feel like I've woken up in…

the federal government is operating largely in secret

having lots of secret activities != operating largely in secret.

Re: Michael Hastings Sent Panicked Email Hours Before Car Crash

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, we really don't know. But I'm extremely uncomfortable by the fact that foul play is a real possibility. We already know that the federal government is operating largely in secret and without regard to the law (their insistence that are indeed following their own secret set of laws doesn't provide me much solace). We already know that various press organizations have been wiretapped. I feel like I've woken up in…

It is a huge leap from the revelations of late and a world where the government goes around killing journalists. When your parents confided to you that Santa Claus wasn't real, you didn't suddenly become adopted too. Chill out and reacquaint with reality.

You completely misread the point. We don't know the truth, if it was foul play or not. Probably not. BUT, it doesn't matter about the size of the jump, yet the fact that it's even a POSSIBILITY THAT WE HAVE TO CONSIDER ... is scary.

Plus, it's not as large of a leap as you think, it goes hand in hand. Everyone is familiar with journalists disappearing in countries like Turkey.

Re: Michael Hastings Sent Panicked Email Hours Before Car Crash

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I think given the fact that the US is literally Nazi Germany, it's pretty much assured that the US assassinated him for what he knew. I'm so glad that these kind of pieces are being upvoted here so we can finally stop talking about all that technology bullshit. Upvote on the left if you agree.

I think given the fact that the US is literally Nazi Germany Literally is metaphorically literally? I hate it when people abuse language like that, even though usage dictates conventions.

He's being sarcastic.

Re: Michael Hastings Sent Panicked Email Hours Before Car Crash

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post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, page 6 sounds a lot like the mysterious magic car openers the police have been seeing (compromise the CAN bus through wireless device exploits, use CAN to unlock the doors). [From the PDF:] To be clear, for every vulnerability we demonstrate, we are able to obtain complete control over the vehicle’s systems. The latest Fast and Furious movie employes magnetically attached exploit devices that lock the ABS syste…

> The latest Fast and Furious movie employes magnetically attached exploit devices that lock the ABS system on a single wheel at speed, causing the car to immediately pull hard in that direction. Are you seriously citing an action movie to support a point about how easy this would be?

No, I'm pointing out that even Hollywood thought of this. When Hollywood is using a technology, you can usually assume it's either fantasy or old hat. This doesn't look like fantasy.
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