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Re: A list of front end development resources

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Post by eksith »

ben336 wrote: post #42
nudetayne wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not as big of a mess as the list would make it seem. None of the resources provided are required, and however useful they may seem, I've never found them to speed up development time. I do all of my HTML, CSS, and JavaScript from scratch for every site I build. It's a max of one day on only the most complex projects.

Uh... you're not building very complex projects then :) Before you get defensive, consider something like Amazon.com as an easy extreme example. Or a banking website or non-trivial html5 based onlline game as less extreme ones. None of those are getting built in a day, and probably not without the use of libraries (though for something like amazon the libraries may be mostly proprietary/internal)

This shows you've never built a banking site.

All financial institutions will greatly benefit by sending less to the browser, not more. CAPTCHAs as we know are not foolproof, and should be limited. Instead, things like session/ip based hashing of field names, generating anti-csrf tokens and the like are trivial for the backend.

The vast majority of complexity in most projects is needlessly self-inflicted. DRY is dead, less-is-more is dead.

Let's Include All The Things is how Amazon became as pathetic as it is for a major commercial website.

Re: A list of front end development resources

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Post by andrewflnr »

hdra wrote: post #13
Nekorosu wrote: post #6

The list is too massive and lacks projects' details to be useful. I'd better use github's search.

Agreed. There are way too many items on the list. This way, it is barely anymore useful than a google search for these tools.

Lists are useful because sometimes you don't know what to google, especially if you hadn't really noticed a problem enough to think that someone else might have already solved it for you.

Re: A list of front end development resources

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Post by alok-g »

ldng wrote: post #25

Well it is a nice list but, it's a list, again. By that I mean you either find compilation list like that or full stack framework but what a would personally find more useful would sets of cohesive tools, end-to-end. Sure there are boilerplates out there but what I frustrating is that you hardly find "full stack" one. For instance what about a boilerplate for django + django-rest-framework + backbone.js + marionette…

Web development newbie here: I seriously used to think that such a thing would already exist, a thing like Visual Studio that included all the guts out of the box, and including back end in addition to the front end.

Re: A list of front end development resources

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Post by tripzilch »

benihana wrote: post #39
simfoo wrote: post #33

Seeing this mess again tells me that there's something fundamentally wrong with the web or at least with the standardized technologies that are supposed to solve the problem of frontend development (namely HTML, CSS and JS). I think the web really needs a fresh start before I would even consider becoming a web developer (I'm a CS student atm)

That's like saying you don't want to eat the eggs in your fridge because there are too many ways to cook them, and you're certain, despite the fact that you don't have any experience cooking them, that cooking eggs needs to be rethought.

Great, more eggs for me!

Re: A list of front end development resources

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Post by lowboy »

andrewflnr wrote: post #50
Hoffenheimer wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You don't actually mention anything that's wrong with any of the libraries. Most of them seem well written. So why would the web need a fresh start?

It's not so much the libraries themselves as the very need for all of them. I'm a fairly new front-end developer (for anything complicated, that is), and the browser as a platform can't help but feel like what it is, some good ideas with a lot of hacks and inconsistent philosophies accreted over time. It's a pain in the butt, even something like a two-column layout without tables. And that's just to get it working in…

You only need a small set of modules, depending on your needs. Instead of a monolithic ModernWebSiteLibrary, you piece together what you need.

In your two-col example, just pick any CSS framework or grid system (Bootstrap, Foundation, Skeleton, YUI Pure, etc...) and you're done.

Re: A list of front end development resources

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Post by bung »

andrewflnr wrote: post #50
Hoffenheimer wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You don't actually mention anything that's wrong with any of the libraries. Most of them seem well written. So why would the web need a fresh start?

It's not so much the libraries themselves as the very need for all of them. I'm a fairly new front-end developer (for anything complicated, that is), and the browser as a platform can't help but feel like what it is, some good ideas with a lot of hacks and inconsistent philosophies accreted over time. It's a pain in the butt, even something like a two-column layout without tables. And that's just to get it working in…

Regarding column layouts, great place to start is css box-sizing property

Re: A list of front end development resources

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Post by TallboyOne »

vinceguidry wrote: post #47
citricsquid wrote: post #23

Another excellent development resource list is pineapple.io: http://pineapple.io/

I don't like that site, the information density is too low. The gist has one resource per line, much more useful.

I'm sorry you don't like it. But I assure you there are hidden gems on my site that you won't find in the gist (even though it's an absolutely fantastic list - great work dypsilon).
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