Remember when radio host Michael Savage was banned from the UK? I get the feeling it's not hard to get banned from the country.
Michael Savage is still banned apparently. He was raging about it the other day.
Snowden banned from flying to UK
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Re: Snowden banned from flying to UK
#52Earlier quoted context omitted.
That cracked me up. Is Assange expected to die in that embassy?
At the moment, yes. His only other options are: 1. Get from the building to a diplomatically immune car and out of the EU. Not going to happen: the fuzz will snag him the moment he steps out of the door. 2. Wait for a politically sympathetic party is voted in and the extradition rules are changed. Not going to happen: people are too stupid to vote for anything other than "the big two" and if they did, they won't chan…
5. They get so sick of sharing that place with him that they appoint him ambassador to the UK for life and the rest of the staff bails.
Re: Snowden banned from flying to UK
#53Earlier quoted context omitted.
That cracked me up. Is Assange expected to die in that embassy?
At the moment, yes. His only other options are: 1. Get from the building to a diplomatically immune car and out of the EU. Not going to happen: the fuzz will snag him the moment he steps out of the door. 2. Wait for a politically sympathetic party is voted in and the extradition rules are changed. Not going to happen: people are too stupid to vote for anything other than "the big two" and if they did, they won't chan…
If the powers that be get desperate enough they'll just burn down the embassy, forcing him to come out.
It will be an "accidental" gas leak or some such.
Re: Snowden banned from flying to UK
#54Remember when radio host Michael Savage was banned from the UK? I get the feeling it's not hard to get banned from the country.
Michael Savage is still banned apparently. He was raging about it the other day.
I remember when that decision first came down, and his show was playing The Kinks "Living on a Thin Line" into and out of break (the first part: "All the stories have been told / Of kings and days of old, / But there's no England now.")
Within a few days, if I recall correctly, he was asking the audience to buy copies of his new book and mail them to whoever it was in England that set the rules in this regard, to send her a message.
I'm on the left edge of the political spectrum, assuming that's 2D, but every time Michael Savage was on and I was doing something where I could listen to talk radio I'd tune in. Guy knows how to put on an entertaining show.
Re: Snowden banned from flying to UK
#55Surely Snowden knows that there isn't safe harbour in the UK after what happened to Assange?
Though I do agree with your main point, nothing happened to Assange until Sweden asked to have him extradited to complete the charging process.
Which is what the US is already doing with Snowden. It shows what the UK would already do with Snowden if he did go to the UK.
Re: Snowden banned from flying to UK
#56He'd be foolish to come to the UK anyway, we'd extradite him before he'd left the airport.
"liable to costs relating to the individual's detention and removal'' should they allow him to travel. According to the Home Office's website that charge would be £2,000" Being a little bit cynical, but 2000 GBP seems closer to the cost of shipping him to the US than the cost of detaining him.
Even if they just denied him entry and/or deported him, it would probably would be back to either where he flew from or where his passport's from. And Hong Kong might not want him back once he's been denied entry to the UK, so to the US he would most likely go.
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#57Earlier quoted context omitted.
"It's a horrible place to live" Though we have many problems, please speak for yourself and stay off general comments about the country. Your other points are valid and interesting but you really ruin them with your frankly childish comment - just because you, personally find the entirety of the country horrible doesn't mean that is close to the reality of living here or the experience of everybody else.
In all fairness, it does sound like a horrible place to live. I mean, on top of all the problems he listed, you guys also have awful weather. :)
I'm not going to deny that our weather is awful :) but there is a lot of good too - a relatively free democracy (aside from all the questionable stuff listed above that let's face it is likely occurring in every western country, though we might be leading the way on CCTV) which is far, far less infiltrated by religious nuts than many countries, London which alone counts for a HELL of a lot :), lots of history, good cheddar cheese, and most important of all - weather-induced sense of humour! ;-)
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#58I hope Edward Snowden is well wherever he goes, even if the UK, but according to "news" reports, he was making a lot of money, so he is probably in a beach somewhere. In any case, hopefully bring the NSA problem to the public eye will encourage the world to be more private and to demand privacy from their govs.
Re: Snowden banned from flying to UK
#59Earlier quoted context omitted.
At the moment, yes. His only other options are: 1. Get from the building to a diplomatically immune car and out of the EU. Not going to happen: the fuzz will snag him the moment he steps out of the door. 2. Wait for a politically sympathetic party is voted in and the extradition rules are changed. Not going to happen: people are too stupid to vote for anything other than "the big two" and if they did, they won't chan…
I'd add: 5. He finally gets stir crazy enough to attempt to sneak out and gets collared or just decides to take his chances in Sweden. 6. Ecuador gets sick of him and kicks him out (maybe after a change of leadership). And I think 5 is likelier than 3.
Swedish jails are actually very humane; the irony is he would have gotten more sunlight, fresh air, exercise and probably better food too, if he had just surrendered a year ago.
Re: Snowden banned from flying to UK
#60I hope Edward Snowden is well wherever he goes, even if the UK, but according to "news" reports, he was making a lot of money, so he is probably in a beach somewhere. In any case, hopefully bring the NSA problem to the public eye will encourage the world to be more private and to demand privacy from their govs.
Being on the run is incredibly expensive. You will burn money at 10x the rate of normal life. And he's not getting a salary any more (and even so, that salary wasn't too dissimilar from what a sysadmin in SF would get).