So, in summary, the difference between a patriot and a traitor is just PR. Pun intended.
And a brilliant one! I gave you a point
More Americans see man who leaked NSA secrets as 'patriot' than traitor
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Re: More Americans see man who leaked NSA secrets as 'patriot' than traitor
#52Sample size is 645 people - I don't think that's large enough to mean anything.
Not to mention almost half of respondents said they have no opinion yet. Title seems a bit misleading in my view.
Re: More Americans see man who leaked NSA secrets as 'patriot' than traitor
#53What really pisses me off is that Democrats seem to support Obama in anything he does; half of them think this kind of shit is perfectly fine, likely because their team is the one doing it. Really sorely disappointing.
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Re: More Americans see man who leaked NSA secrets as 'patriot' than traitor
#54So, in summary, the difference between a patriot and a traitor is just PR. Pun intended.
Wow... good job! But now that Snowden left the US, he must be an ex-patriot. The traditional response is an extradition request.
"The traditional response is an extradition request."
Which, if not met, is followed by a massive invasion and subsequent decade long occupation, judging by the Afghan fiasco. :)
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#55Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is not comparable at all . Nuclear arsenals cannot be dismantled because of the benefits of MAD and the other guy might be considered in a position of force. In our case, PRISM can be dismantled without the other guy (i.e the population) retaliating in any way or any enemy country gaining any advantage out of that.
It won't happen. Data today holds the same value as nukes during the cold war. A whole lot of intellectual and emotional evolution has to occur, across entire populations, before dismantling either becomes feasible. I have a feeling this incident is going to start a big data arms race, mostly because, many governments in other country are going to start investing in their own NSA's. The only thing that can control it…
It won't happen. Data today holds the same value as nukes during the cold war
That is so true. Remember that last DPRK scare? "North Korea builds server farm" they screamed. Seems that any time the DPRK needs some attention, they just announce a test of their number-crunching machines.
Re: More Americans see man who leaked NSA secrets as 'patriot' than traitor
#56So, in summary, the difference between a patriot and a traitor is just PR. Pun intended.
You reminded me of the old chestnut: One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter....
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#57Earlier quoted context omitted.
It won't happen. Data today holds the same value as nukes during the cold war. A whole lot of intellectual and emotional evolution has to occur, across entire populations, before dismantling either becomes feasible. I have a feeling this incident is going to start a big data arms race, mostly because, many governments in other country are going to start investing in their own NSA's. The only thing that can control it…
It won't happen. Data today holds the same value as nukes during the cold war That is so true. Remember that last DPRK scare? "North Korea builds server farm" they screamed. Seems that any time the DPRK needs some attention, they just announce a test of their number-crunching machines.
Lacking much imagination. DPRK don't need a server farm just a pen drive from St. Petersburg.
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#58Earlier quoted context omitted.
It won't happen. Data today holds the same value as nukes during the cold war That is so true. Remember that last DPRK scare? "North Korea builds server farm" they screamed. Seems that any time the DPRK needs some attention, they just announce a test of their number-crunching machines.
Lacking much imagination. DPRK don't need a server farm just a pen drive from St. Petersburg.
And yet the news never says "DPRK buy pen drive" but only "DPRK closer to nuclear weapons with global reach".
Re: More Americans see man who leaked NSA secrets as 'patriot' than traitor
#59Sample size is 645 people - I don't think that's large enough to mean anything.
Traitor: 23% ± 4.4%. Patriot: 31% ± 4.4%. Hmm.
Re: More Americans see man who leaked NSA secrets as 'patriot' than traitor
#60So, in summary, the difference between a patriot and a traitor is just PR. Pun intended.
I don't get this pun---can you explain?