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US intelligence mining data from 9 US Internet companies in broad secret program

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Re: US intelligence mining data from 9 US Internet companies in broad secret program

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Edit: Just saw the portion markings (the stuff on the slides that says their classification level), and I'm going to change my judgement to "this was pretty classified." And whoever released these slides to the public is going to jail for violating the NDA they signed. Jail for quite a few years for knowingly revealing TS information. I'll leave my previous comment below so you won't think I erased anything. My probl…

>Even Tor, the darling of the EFF, was initially developed by the Navy.

Tor is open source. Are you suggesting there is some secret backdoor inserted by the Navy which is not apparent in the public code?

Re: US intelligence mining data from 9 US Internet companies in broad secret program

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Dropbox.... “coming soon.” Time to look at Bittorrent Sync again? Or other open source alternatives?

"Is BitTorrent Sync open-source? BitTorrent Sync isn't open source software, and no announcements have been made to indicate that this will likely change."[1]

[1]http://forum.bittorrent.com/topic/17782-bittorrent-sync-faq-...

Re: US intelligence mining data from 9 US Internet companies in broad secret program

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't believe they need backdoors, they probably just ask for the data and it's provided to them by those companies to comply with the current laws (or at least their interpretation of it.) I'm pretty sure dropbox can reverse any encryption they use for the files they store. Or do they even encrypt the data?

Dropbox has every encryption key used with Dropbox, so they can decrypt any file. Both transport keys and storage keys. Dropbox does at least (allegedly) encrypt stuff for storage, so they can RMA hard drives without having to destroy them first, but that's pretty meaningless. There are some (flimsy) reasons for Dropbox to have copies of all storage keys (a web UI, which only some users use). Dropbox has done a good…

Use Bit Torrent sync

Re: US intelligence mining data from 9 US Internet companies in broad secret program

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post #11

Edit: Just saw the portion markings (the stuff on the slides that says their classification level), and I'm going to change my judgement to "this was pretty classified." And whoever released these slides to the public is going to jail for violating the NDA they signed. Jail for quite a few years for knowingly revealing TS information. I'll leave my previous comment below so you won't think I erased anything. My probl…

Perhaps whomever leaked it regarded it as essential to upholding an oath of office. 'preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States.... '

Re: US intelligence mining data from 9 US Internet companies in broad secret program

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

How does this stuff work? Would someone at the NSA contact dropbox and ask them to build in a backdoor or are they just able to access whatever the fuck they want and simply do?

It's described for a couple of the cooperating corporations in the article. For example, for Facebook, the analyst goes to a special webpage/site at Facebook, then they simply clicks through a "Yep, this person is a terrorist" EULA and they have full access to Facebook's database (eg. full access to user content). I bet they rejoiced when Facebook Graph opened shop.

Move fast and break the Constitution.

Re: US intelligence mining data from 9 US Internet companies in broad secret program

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Dropbox has every encryption key used with Dropbox, so they can decrypt any file. Both transport keys and storage keys. Dropbox does at least (allegedly) encrypt stuff for storage, so they can RMA hard drives without having to destroy them first, but that's pretty meaningless. There are some (flimsy) reasons for Dropbox to have copies of all storage keys (a web UI, which only some users use). Dropbox has done a good…

What alternative do you suggest?

MEGA?

Re: US intelligence mining data from 9 US Internet companies in broad secret program

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I am so happy this is finally getting media coverage. I'm sick and tired of being called 'paranoid' whenever I say it's obvious this is what the NSA is doing with their enormous data centers.

This is STILL just the tip of the iceberg. I really hope the whistle blowers continue to release details of more and more of these secret programs. If people think this is as bad as it gets they're in for quite a shock. Call metadata, all your private files, and the people you stalk on Facebook are nothing.

How about access to your laptop's webcam and microphone? How about the two cameras and the microphone on the smartphone you carry with you everywhere? How about the exact GPS location of your phone every minute of the day? How about aggregating the CCTV and traffic camera footage with facial recognition to give a full video/audio recording of you everywhere you go every day? How about all of your credit card purchases aggregated, plotted on map, used to determine your habits?

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