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Australian police issue warning on 3D printed guns

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Re: Australian police issue warning on 3D printed guns

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Thats true. All gun will wear out and fail eventually.

Metal guns normally wear out by jamming or having another internal problem -- for an outside user, they are "Fail Safe". One concern being presented here is that the gun could shatter on failure, making it "Fail Dangerous".

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=kaboom+(firearm+OR+gun)

Re: Australian police issue warning on 3D printed guns

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> Gun violence is caused, first and foremost, by the presence of a gun. Gun violence is caused by people.

Gun violence is caused by people with guns. Surely?

Gun violence is caused by people with fingers.

Re: Australian police issue warning on 3D printed guns

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I'm not sure the theory that violence is caused by "people being asshats to each other" is accepted by anybody other than Wayne LaPierre. Gun violence is caused, first and foremost, by the presence of a gun. A sufficient cause? Often yes, given appropriate context. There are plenty of very successful ways to "hold back" this technology. It's called law. Anyway I don't think anybody is worried about this 3d printed de…

>Gun violence is caused, first and foremost, by the presence of a gun. But violence is caused, first and foremost, by people being asshats to each other. A gun is just a tool a violent person may use to be violent. In the absence of a gun, they may use a knife, a baseball bat, a crowbar, a fist, a pencil, a screwdriver, a laptop, a bucket full of sardines, etc.

> But violence is caused, first and foremost, by people being asshats to each other.

No. Violence is caused, first and foremost, by people being violent. Give them means or tools to be more violent and they'll use them. Thus guns existence are a factor in the violence scale.

Guns aren't tools like the other ones just like the nuclear bomb isn't like any V2.

Moreover many quiet people who aren't asshats have been the victims of asshats, and sometimes only because they precisely aren't asshats.

Re: Australian police issue warning on 3D printed guns

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I can understand the worry about 3d printed weapons, but I don't see much of a difference between this an a zipgun besides that a common zipgun uses a metal tube for a barrel so it would show up on a metal detector. I am completely disinterested in any of the fearmongering about this weapon. There is no way to hold back technology to prevent violence, we just need to accept that and deal with not being asshats to eac…

I'm not sure the theory that violence is caused by "people being asshats to each other" is accepted by anybody other than Wayne LaPierre. Gun violence is caused, first and foremost, by the presence of a gun. A sufficient cause? Often yes, given appropriate context. There are plenty of very successful ways to "hold back" this technology. It's called law. Anyway I don't think anybody is worried about this 3d printed de…

"Gun violence is caused, first and foremost, by the presence of a gun."

"Gun violence" isn't "caused" by guns any more than "knife violence" is caused by knives or "fist violence" is caused by hands.

Re: Australian police issue warning on 3D printed guns

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I'm not sure the theory that violence is caused by "people being asshats to each other" is accepted by anybody other than Wayne LaPierre. Gun violence is caused, first and foremost, by the presence of a gun. A sufficient cause? Often yes, given appropriate context. There are plenty of very successful ways to "hold back" this technology. It's called law. Anyway I don't think anybody is worried about this 3d printed de…

>Gun violence is caused, first and foremost, by the presence of a gun. But violence is caused, first and foremost, by people being asshats to each other. A gun is just a tool a violent person may use to be violent. In the absence of a gun, they may use a knife, a baseball bat, a crowbar, a fist, a pencil, a screwdriver, a laptop, a bucket full of sardines, etc.

Right but violence with, say, a pencil, all that happens is that I get a hole in my hand[1], the teacher goes a bit pale, but the rest of the class get to go home without being riddled with bullet holes.

[1] True story.

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