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Re: JQuery 2.0 Released

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It looks to me like he's worried (or saying that other people are/might be worried) about how long 1.9 will continue to be supported for.

From the post: "...we’ve got jQuery 1.x to handle older browsers and fully expect to support it for several more years."

Exactly. What does "several" mean? Are we talking two years? Five? A decade? Until jQuery changes their minds?

Re: JQuery 2.0 Released

#52

it would be nice to see a 2.0 vs 1.9 bench on FF/Chrome/IE9+, much more interested in that than a non-noticeable 11k size reduction for the end user (maybe only slightly noticeable on very slow mobile).

Yeah, I was also scratching my head as to the 'performance' gains. Even if jQuery 2.0 has computational benchmark gains they also are likely insignificant in proper context.

Re: JQuery 2.0 Released

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As many versions as used by the audience that they serve I suppose; how is the choice up to him?

At the speed web development is moving, I don't see much sense in coddling browsers that are more than 2-3 years old.

That all changes if your client uses browsers that are more then 2-3 years old, and you are financially dependent on your client being served properly.

Re: JQuery 2.0 Released

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post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As many versions as used by the audience that they serve I suppose; how is the choice up to him?

At the speed web development is moving, I don't see much sense in coddling browsers that are more than 2-3 years old.

It all depends on your end goals and your audience. I don't have #'s off the top of my head, but let's say IE8 accounted for 40% of browser usage across your visitors. But IE8 is old. Are you willing to say to 40% of your potentially paying customers "Sorry, but your browser sucks. We're not supporting you."?

If you are, great. No coddling necessary. But for other people, they may not be comfortable with the percentages yet, and I think that's perfectly understandable.

Re: JQuery 2.0 Released

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I cannot believe IE8 is now considered 'old'. It is the second most used browser+version on our site, and has about 80% as much usage as the leader, IE9. Can't see IE8 support being droppable for many years yet.

Even IE9 is pretty old. It's over 2 years old by now. IE8 is over 4 years old. IE11 will be released soon. How many versions of IE do you intend to support?

We have clients who still use IE 6. BIG clients - banks too big for me to name publicly. Millions of dollars in revenue and dozens of jobs' worth.

Dropping them isn't an option.

Re: JQuery 2.0 Released

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post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As many versions as used by the audience that they serve I suppose; how is the choice up to him?

At the speed web development is moving, I don't see much sense in coddling browsers that are more than 2-3 years old.

Naturally that depends on your target audience. I haven't checked the version, but we're stuck on an older IE at work. Possibly 9, but I think it's 8. No choice in the matter.

Re: JQuery 2.0 Released

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post #51
post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From the post: "...we’ve got jQuery 1.x to handle older browsers and fully expect to support it for several more years."

Exactly. What does "several" mean? Are we talking two years? Five? A decade? Until jQuery changes their minds?

How relevant will IE8 be in just two years, though? If it's 3-5 which is what it sounds like, then that's just more of a nail in the coffin for IE8 support.

Re: JQuery 2.0 Released

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Sorry if I seem cranky, but did you READ the blog post? jQuery 1.9 supports those browsers and the jQuery team still supports it. Do you have a problem with us supporting a second version that can be smaller, faster, and work in places other than obsolete browsers?

It looks to me like he's worried (or saying that other people are/might be worried) about how long 1.9 will continue to be supported for.

Well, it's an open source community project so the answer is obvious.

1.9 will be supported for as long as people care about to support it.

Do those complaining want to somehow tell the developers what they should be working on? Where does the sense of entitlement come?

Even if the whole core team insists on going 2.0 only at some point (high unlikely), it's not like it needs any highly technical skills for interested people to jump in and maintain 1.9.

Most of the stuff has been stable for ages, and small fixes are easy to add if needed.

Re: JQuery 2.0 Released

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Until Windows XP is banished from corporate machines worldwide, I don't think we can drop IE8 support. (You can't install 9/10 on Windows XP.)

I'm glad they decided to continue support for 1.x for now.

Re: JQuery 2.0 Released

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post #51
post #40

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From the post: "...we’ve got jQuery 1.x to handle older browsers and fully expect to support it for several more years."

Exactly. What does "several" mean? Are we talking two years? Five? A decade? Until jQuery changes their minds?

Whereas if they said explicitly "we will support it for 5 more years" how would have changed anything? They can change their minds at any time, and it's not like you can sue them or anything.

Not to mention that the whole question is moot, for reasons I states on my comment above.

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