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Re: The Queen’s stylesheets

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Post by lloeki » Sun, Apr 14, 2013, 9:39 AM UTC

itafroma wrote: post #13

Not very many substitutions performed[1]: 'colour' => 'color', 'grey' => 'gray', '!please' => '!important', 'transparency' => 'opacity', 'centre' => 'center', 'plump' => 'bold', 'photograph' => 'image', 'capitalise' => 'capitalize' Would've thought there'd be a ton of opportunities to pedantically correct CSS's choice of words. !please instead of !important made me laugh, though. [1]: Taken from https://github.com/id…

> !please instead of !important made me laugh

Reminded me of INTERCAL:

INTERCAL has [..] modifiers such as "PLEASE". This last keyword provides two reasons for the program's rejection by the compiler: if "PLEASE" does not appear often enough, the program is considered insufficiently polite, and the error message says this; if too often, the program could be rejected as excessively polite.

Re: The Queen’s stylesheets

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Post by keithpeter » Sun, Apr 14, 2013, 9:39 AM UTC

corin_ wrote: post #49

keithpeter wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A brief note to the Author of the Page in question " ...one must check whether one has PHP 5.2 (or newer) installed upon their Internet server... " Should this not be 'one's Internet server'? " Something our primitive stateside friends can understand " What is this 'stateside' you speak of, Sir? Our Colonial Cousins may also resent the adjective that has been applied. I personally rather regret the automatic recitati…

> I personally rather regret the automatic recitation of Arne's ditty when visiting the page. Possibly the first time I have appreciated auto-play music on a site, made me laugh. And now it's put me into a baroque mood which is always a good thing.

The auto-play might have worked with a more appropriate visual presentation...

http://www.victorian-novels.co.uk/?page=shop/flypage&pro...

Re: The Queen’s stylesheets

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Post by Hytosys » Sun, Apr 14, 2013, 9:54 AM UTC

Autoplay music had me cracking up. How can you people actually criticize it of all things for what is so clearly a joke?

Re: The Queen’s stylesheets

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Post by demetrius » Sun, Apr 14, 2013, 10:08 AM UTC

tripzilch wrote: post #28

logical42 wrote: post #5

auto playing music on the web is a bit 90s no?

Indeed, it puzzles me why people still enable it in their browsers.

It’s implemented not using the old-fashioned tags, but by embedding an invisible Youtube video.

Re: The Queen’s stylesheets

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Post by michaelmartin » Sun, Apr 14, 2013, 11:01 AM UTC

Love it, reminds me of "If PHP Were British" ( http://www.addedbytes.com/blog/if-php-were-british/ )

Wouldn't mind a few more substitutions in the language, but it seems like most of the work went into making a really nice landing page. Great job there! (Autoplay music forgivable on a joke at least)

Re: The Queen’s stylesheets

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Post by eddieroger » Sun, Apr 14, 2013, 11:12 AM UTC

TazeTSchnitzel wrote: post #33

greggman wrote: post #27

I guess we also need ones for other languages 透明度: 0.5; 色: 紫; which does bring up the point, are we being at all culturally insensitive by making nearly all web standards English? Or how about UsingCamelCase? Give than some languages don't have the concept of UPPER/lower case. Does Go require you to use "er" for interfaces as in Writer, Reader, Serializer? That seems even worse given that it not just roman letters on…

The thing about English use is, well, at least it is consistent. Everything uses American English, so if you need to learn to program, there is only one language to learn. Allowing other languages wouldn't solve much since English would still be present in all the API methods and so on, so I think consistency is better.

> Everything uses American English...

Isn't that kind of disingenuous? Everything may use the American English character set and dialect, but they're called programming languages for a reason. I don't consider my work to be in English, I consider it Objective-C or Java. In this way, they have their own subdialects anyway.

Re: The Queen’s stylesheets

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Post by muan » Sun, Apr 14, 2013, 11:40 AM UTC

martinshen wrote: post #20

colmvp wrote: post #19

The bowler tilts upon rollover. Nice touch.

it turns on and off the music too!

It links to the same page, so the music stop and start again....

Re: The Queen’s stylesheets

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Post by Tripfag » Sun, Apr 14, 2013, 11:57 AM UTC

TazeTSchnitzel wrote: post #33

greggman wrote: post #27

I guess we also need ones for other languages 透明度: 0.5; 色: 紫; which does bring up the point, are we being at all culturally insensitive by making nearly all web standards English? Or how about UsingCamelCase? Give than some languages don't have the concept of UPPER/lower case. Does Go require you to use "er" for interfaces as in Writer, Reader, Serializer? That seems even worse given that it not just roman letters on…

The thing about English use is, well, at least it is consistent. Everything uses American English, so if you need to learn to program, there is only one language to learn. Allowing other languages wouldn't solve much since English would still be present in all the API methods and so on, so I think consistency is better.

Schools here [Belgium] teach their pupils British English. Rightfully so, I'd say.

Re: The Queen’s stylesheets

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Post by TazeTSchnitzel » Sun, Apr 14, 2013, 12:12 PM UTC

Tripfag wrote: post #58

TazeTSchnitzel wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The thing about English use is, well, at least it is consistent. Everything uses American English, so if you need to learn to program, there is only one language to learn. Allowing other languages wouldn't solve much since English would still be present in all the API methods and so on, so I think consistency is better.

Schools here [Belgium] teach their pupils British English. Rightfully so, I'd say.

Sure. European schools teach European English. I'm not complaining about that, I speak British English.

Re: The Queen’s stylesheets

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Post by chestnut-tree » Sun, Apr 14, 2013, 12:12 PM UTC

TazeTSchnitzel wrote: post #30

itafroma wrote: post #13

Not very many substitutions performed[1]: 'colour' => 'color', 'grey' => 'gray', '!please' => '!important', 'transparency' => 'opacity', 'centre' => 'center', 'plump' => 'bold', 'photograph' => 'image', 'capitalise' => 'capitalize' Would've thought there'd be a ton of opportunities to pedantically correct CSS's choice of words. !please instead of !important made me laugh, though. [1]: Taken from https://github.com/id…

Some are incorrect. Transparency and opacity are opposites.

They are in the sense that 100% transparency = 0% opacity. But in the end, aren't they both giving the same effect in CSS?

In Illustrator, for example, the interface has an opacity setting but the help file refers to it as setting the transparency since that is essentially what you're doing when you lower the opacity. (Personally, I prefer the word transparency, it just seems clearer to me.)